Is the AJ/Matchroom fanbase the most casual in boxing?

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    #11
    Originally posted by Uncle Al..varez
    What is this mystical criticism? Lol. Exactly what is that AJ fans cant handle? Be specific. Seems like you’re upset that Fury’s only significant wins are a war torn Wlad or Wilder.

    Wlad was how old, size differential, war torn? Yet people cry about the smaller Canelo fighting a younger Kovalev compared Wlad. You can’t make this stuff up.
    I'd argue that a prime Chisora that Fury beat was better than say, the old shot, non-roided version of Povetkin.

    If you break down AJ's resume, it's nothing special, carefully selected opponents, most of whom were probably paid to lie down & were beaten before they got to the ring.

    AJ fans can't handle any criticism of AJ, they get very defensive and start dishing out personal abuse.

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      #12
      Originally posted by denium
      Not really, the Wlad who Fury beat was a far, far better version than the guy who Sanders KO'd. It's common knowledge that Wlad became elite after he got with Emmanuel.

      Fury has beaten Wilder twice.

      Until Joshua actually beats a real champion and not a belt holder, he's not ahead of Fury.

      Fury has defeated 2 legitimate champions, Joshua hasn't beaten any.

      Anyway, stop changing the subject and keep on topic.
      So let’s revise your theory...

      Wlad, the Gold Olympian like AJ, became “elite” after....regardless of being demolished by Sanders like Ruiz over AJ, has no parallel to AJ’s trajectory?

      You’re admitting that AJ has the possibility to become great like Wlad did.

      So, Fury’s best wins were an old ass Wlad and the “one dimensional Wilder.” Ok...

      So what are AJ fans insecure of? Lol

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        #13
        Originally posted by Uncle Al..varez
        So let’s revise your theory...

        Wlad, the Gold Olympian like AJ, became “elite” after....regardless of being demolished by Sanders like Ruiz over AJ, has no parallel to AJ’s trajectory?

        You’re admitting that AJ has the possibility to become great like Wlad did.

        So, Fury’s best wins were an old ass Wlad and the “one dimensional Wilder.” Ok...

        So what are AJ fans insecure of? Lol
        No let's not, let's stick on topic, I've got better things to do than get into a discussion with a lunatic like yourself.

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          #14
          Originally posted by denium
          Fury's wins over champions Wlad & Wilder is miles better than anything AJ has achieved in his career thus far.

          And yes, Wilder is one dimensional, but he's a dangerous mofo, hence why AJ didn't want anything to do with him.
          Not for me. Fury didn't get the credit he deserved for the Klitschko win but it's not as if he bludgeoned the life out of him. Joshua taking him on instead of going the "baby champion" route deserves respect.

          Wilder can't box and has beaten one serious opponent in his entire career. Awful, awful title reign. He also fought Fury for less than he was offered to fight Joshua.

          As to your original question, I can't imagine casuals taking time out of their day to argue the toss on a boxing forum. As Koba points out, there'll be extremists in every fanbase and they tend to make the most noise.

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            #15
            Originally posted by denium
            No let's not, let's stick on topic, I've got better things to do than get into a discussion with a lunatic like yourself.
            Sorry I had to shut you down. Enjoy the one dimensional Wilder theory. So One Dimensional that Fury is geeked for a third fight. Let AJ fans enjoy the Pulev meet.

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              #16
              Originally posted by denium
              I'd argue that a prime Chisora that Fury beat was better than say, the old shot, non-roided version of Povetkin.

              If you break down AJ's resume, it's nothing special, carefully selected opponents, most of whom were probably paid to lie down & were beaten before they got to the ring.

              AJ fans can't handle any criticism of AJ, they get very defensive and start dishing out personal abuse.
              Povetkin, Klitschko, Parker, Takam, Ruiz, Whyte in his first 20 odd fights. Come on now...

              This whole thread is very pot kettle black. 90% of your posts and threads are dictated by fanboyism to one man. I think you need to look at yourself a bit before criticising others.

              You are focussed on a very small minority, the majority can see AJ for what he is...good fighter, improving, talented, good puncher.
              but also a late starter, unreliable chin, limited boxing ability, so that is always going to hold him back.

              There have definitely been worse fan bases

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                #17
                Its funny how you can accuse a fanbase of being a casual when all you do is either bash AJ or worship Fury at every moment possible.

                It cant get anymore casual than that.

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                  #18
                  Originally posted by Citizen Koba
                  All the obsessives are ridiculous, man, there's no good fanboys or haters. All pretty much the same whichever fighter it is they support. It's like they imagine that somehow being fanboys of a better or more popular fighter makes them a better class of fanboy.

                  S'Like the King's pubic lice declaring themselves louse royalty because they're hanging off the royal nuts.

                  Ain't picking on one particular fanbase here - all of 'em probably got more genuine fans than obsessives, it's just the fanboys are always thje most vocal - but the obsessives are pretty much mirror images of one another whichever fighter they stapled their ego to or against.
                  The thing you rarely see on here are true fans of the sport. Yeah I have my fighters I root for but at the end of the day I just love boxing as a whole myself.

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                    #19
                    Originally posted by denium
                    Fury's wins over champions Wlad & Wilder is miles better than anything AJ has achieved in his career thus far.

                    And yes, Wilder is one dimensional, but he's a dangerous mofo, hence why AJ didn't want anything to do with him.
                    It was the other way round, tbh. Wilder even bragged about AJ "begging" to fight him. He only wanted to fight Fury because he thought Tyson would be easy pickings after his lay off and weight issues. The heavy knockdown he scored in the last round of their first fight gave him the confidence to want a rematch, which proved to be a huge mistake on his part.

                    AJ/Matchroom brought a lot of new fans into the sport in the UK, and new fans are not the most knowledgeable.

                    But AJ fans didn't come up with any ludicrous conspiracy theories about glove tampering, racist officials, blah blah, after he lost to Ruiz. They didn't start an online petition demanding that the result be overturned and AJ's titles and undefeated record restored. They don't accuse everybody who isn't an AJ fan of racism while spewing blatant racist shit themselves.

                    The Wilder fanatics are far and away the worst, most deluded and poisonous fan base in the whole of sport. I'd take AJ's casual fans over those cunts any of the week.
                    Last edited by kafkod; 05-06-2020, 07:32 AM.

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                      #20
                      Anthony Joshua has more fans than fury, but Fury fans are more passionate and knowledgeable.

                      They can also be more demented.

                      I always get the feeling that Joshua's fan-base can turn on him at any moment 'Past examples of this behavior where evident, when he posted pictures on social media of himself wearing non christian attire etc'
                      Last edited by PRINCEKOOL; 05-06-2020, 07:50 AM.

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