Comments Thread For: Wilder, Pulev Refuse To Step Aside As Fury-Joshua Talks Begin

[Chuckguy]

A contract between two fighters is not a mandatory, and, I do not remember the WBC naming Wilder Fury's first mandatory.

If Fury told Wilder to piss off he'd have to pay Wilder the money he makes fighting Joshua. It's just breach of contract, not even sanctioning body jurisdiction.



Joshua would get stripped if he didn't fight Pulev though, that one is a mando.

So they pretty much have to go through with those fights before they fight each other??

[Dasmius Shinobi]

Old news

This was not a surprise, we all predicted this, that Deontay Wilder and Kubrat Pulev was going to refuse the step aside fee. I am not against them, they want that opportunity. One have to vengeance his only loss to recapture his belt and the other one to try and capture the belts of Joshua. Like one member said it here, both are practically considered tune-up fights, but there is the always this risk in the heavyweight division.

[Marchegiano]

So they pretty much have to go through with those fights before they fight each other??

Yeah man, it sucks.

That's why so many fans turn to Lineal. The sanction bodies have no set avenue to follow for unifications.

Your whole career even if everyone ducks you someone has to fight you eventually because of ranks. So you can use the ranking system to force your way into title contention and a title shot regardless of how much money you draw or how many people think you're very good.

But once the champions have their titles they have no set means of forcing the other champion into a situation where they have to unify or be stripped for refusing.

A major body champion can not be a mandatory on another major body ranking board because each major sanctioning body recognizes the other bodies' champions as legitimate world champions equal to their own.

So, say AJ was a bad mother ****er who just wanted to get at that belt so he makes a fight with Whyte to relieve Whyte of his WBC mandatory position. Too ****ing bad, Joshua is a champion so if Whyte fights Joshua and loses Joshua gains nothing from the WBC ranking system....and never can.

It is super ****ing frustrating because not only does a guy like Joshua who has 3/4s of the titles have to face mandatories whenever one of his 3 decide to make him, but, also, he has to make a deal with Fury instead of fulfilling any fight to force Fury to fight him.

They have to agree to fight....which means, not the men, the two men would probably have their articles of agreement agreed to within an hour of being in the same room, the ****ing lawyers have to agree.

The ***** ass accountants and promoters and **** man. The marketing ****s.

They never agree and that's why Lennox Lewis is the last undisputed AND why Holyfield is the last undisputed to defend the undisputed crown.

'Cause Lennox got stripped right away by one of them for not fighting their mando.

It's been K2 and bull**** ever since. Honestly, Wilder, Joshua, Fury, the men themselves, they ain't scared of ****. Not one another, not some UFC ****head, nothing. It's the ****ing managers, promoters, lawyers, and other ****s like that. The sort of guys you hire to make sure you're not getting screwed because you don't properly understand legal mumbo jumbo or markets.


It's sad. Sometimes I wish the PBC or DAZN or whatever would go after the belts' importance. A PBC champion or DAZN or ESPN...could mean more to me than a WBC/WBA so on.

[daggum]

i dont think wilder will be ready to fight in 2020. his costume legs are still recovering

[jonnyc420]

And thanking his god for cherry picking Fury. He is now wildly known and a multi millionaire. Not bad at all for a one trick pony😆

Cherry picking Fury? Lol, what? Beat 2 long reigning champs, yeah real cherries right? The only HW in years to have held every meaningful belt in the division. Shut up.

[BangEM]

Pulev doesn’t want to get in the ring with Josh and he always pull out in the last minute claiming injuries. Just take a look at those he has fought since Wlad destroyed him with a big left hook - just cream puffs. So if they give him $1million to step aside, he’ll jump on it.

Wilder isn’t fighting Fury again this year. He’s fvvvcked up and the whole posturing is for a big cheque.

Fight is happening this year in most likely Saudi Arabia. I said it weeks ago and you can always bookmark my posts.

[greeneye99]

No! No step aside money for One-trick Phony. He wanted to fight Fury, let him fight Fury. Once Fury beats him again, he should fulfill his mando obligation and fight Whyte. That's what idiotic Hearn should do but he won't. Hearn might be the hardest man in boxing but he's also the dumbest. Remember. Fury will retire after his next 2 fights, even if he loses to AJ.

Who's the Dumbest the actual Promoter Eddie Hearn who makes these Big HW fights happen or the internet Troll in the boxing scene comments who's never done anything
Hmmmm
That's a tuff one to figure out

[Mammoth]

Pulev has some cheek considering he ducked Joshua by faking an injury before

If he gets in the way of unification I don't want the ref stopping it early, when AJ floors him and he gets up all wobbly don't jump in ref, let Joshua put this guy to sleep Povetkin v price style

Pulev even said he was scared of AJ

[KnickTillDeaTh]

If it was in the contract for a 3rd Fury/Wilder fight then DW has a case, however as we all know unification's out trump mandatory's, so Pulev doesn't have a leg to stand on.

You're wrong. Both AJ and Ruiz signed legally binding agreements that stipulates the winner of the rematch must fight Pulev.

Another reason why you're wrong is unification does not simply trump a mandatory. If the mando has already been ordered by the commission, the commission will take a vote in which 2/3 is needed to allow the champion to unifie against a different opponent. In this case, as the mando has already been ordered, the champion will only be able to fight for unification if the mando agrees to step aside.

Unification always has to be voted for even if there is no mando ordered. A formal request would have to be written and submitted to all commissions concerned, and a 2/3 vote is still needed to approve a unification bout.

"Unification trumps mando" is only correct when you're discussing the importance or money, or status involved in a unification as opposed to a simple mandatory. Legally, and by commission rule, that term is wholly incorrect.

[KnickTillDeaTh]

So? He didn't know Joshua would lose to Ruiz, neither did anybody else. It was a duck and one of the ******est moves in boxing history, plain and simple.

Explain the $120 million offer.