Who had the worst first Defeat Naseem or Broner?

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  • Combat Talk Radio
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    #21
    Originally posted by sunny31
    Talking of history rewriting lol

    Yes Barrera was a heavy underdog, but that was simply because most experts didnt believe any 122-126lber could stand up to Hameds power in the end. There were still question marks over his chin after Jones too.

    Regardless Barrera had already accomplished A LOT. 2 x super bantam champ, win over McKinney, and most people thought he beat Morales who was consensus p4p top 10.
    Originally posted by Ca$ual Fan
    Had an epic war against Morales and you call that ‘eye test’? LMAO

    If there was an ‘eye test’ between 2, it was Naz. Not saying the names of his resume is not good but his pre-dominance in the FW division plus his ‘eye test’ abilities is what made him the favorite against Barrera. But Barrera is the more proven one against quality.

    Naz never had an EM in his resume
    The point is, people here saying Naseem lost to a HOF'er. He didn't. Barrera hadn't achieved nearly that much when they fought, which is why he was the underdog. Hamed was the one considered a 'great' at that time. And he did beat Morales, now did he?

    These are facts. Hamed got upset by a decent fighter with basic skill (as exposed later by Manny Pacquiao, who went into that first fight the underdog).

    It's funny. Barrera gets credit for 'almost' beating Morales, but Porter gets no credit for almost beating Thurman and Spence.

    So inconsistent

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    • Real King Kong
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      #22
      Originally posted by revelated
      Gotta love the history rewriting.

      Barrera was 'eye test' back then. Hadn't hardly done anything and was not expected to beat Hamed.
      Eye test? Barrera was already a vet at that point. His wars with McKinney and morales were classics. Everyone knew what he was bringing to the table...the surprise was that he boxed such a disciplined fight.

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        #23
        Originally posted by revelated
        The point is, people here saying Naseem lost to a HOF'er. He didn't. Barrera hadn't achieved nearly that much when they fought, which is why he was the underdog. Hamed was the one considered a 'great' at that time. And he did beat Morales, now did he?

        These are facts. Hamed got upset by a decent fighter with basic skill (as exposed later by Manny Pacquiao, who went into that first fight the underdog).

        It's funny. Barrera gets credit for 'almost' beating Morales, but Porter gets no credit for almost beating Thurman and Spence.

        So inconsistent
        Ok...Hamed lost to a guy who eventually became a hofer if he wasn’t at that point. What’s the difference? The point is, he’s undoubtedly a higher caliber fighter than maidana...and he did beat morales, twice. The first fight was very close and also one of the greatest fights of all time.

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          #24
          Originally posted by revelated
          The point is, people here saying Naseem lost to a HOF'er. He didn't. Barrera hadn't achieved nearly that much when they fought, which is why he was the underdog. Hamed was the one considered a 'great' at that time. And he did beat Morales, now did he?

          These are facts. Hamed got upset by a decent fighter with basic skill (as exposed later by Manny Pacquiao, who went into that first fight the underdog).

          It's funny. Barrera gets credit for 'almost' beating Morales, but Porter gets no credit for almost beating Thurman and Spence.

          So inconsistent
          Dude if you really know Barrera and Morales trilogy, almost everybody think the 1st fight was a gift decision for Morales. Even the WBO (Barerra’s belt) was refused to be awarded to the ‘winner’ Morales. So yeah, Barrera won 1st fight but not in the scorecards. Porter’s close decision loses are far from cryout compared to the Barrera’s supposed win

          The Thurman and Spence win against Porter were never considered gift wins

          Edit: Are you saying Hamed had a win against Morales?
          Last edited by Ca$ual Fan; 04-28-2020, 01:09 PM.

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            #25
            I enjoyed the Broner fight more

            To me that was worse because although AB won a few rounds, he really took a lot of punishment in that fight. Barrera clowned Hamed but he didn’t get his ass kicked as bad as Broner did. He got humiliated so badly that he left the ring straight afterwards without even an interview or anything.

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              #26
              Naseem got beat. But....Broner hobbled away, trembling like he was in need of a proctologist.

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                #27
                The loss affected Naz much more though. That one loss made him quit and eat himself to 500lbs.

                Broner doesnt seem to care much lol. He got paid and that’s what matters to him the most.

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                  #28
                  Originally posted by sunny31
                  Exactly...

                  He also had a far better career
                  Yeah, not really hard to pick.

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                    #29
                    Hamed lost a competitive but clear fight to one of the greatest fighters ever.

                    Broner lost worse than he did, and to a worse fighter. No disrespect to Maidana, but he's no ****ing Marco Antonio Barrera.

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                      #30
                      Originally posted by JcLazyX210
                      True^^^^^^
                      No brainer......

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