Who was more overhype-Ortiz, Brook or Matthysse?

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Why you gotta call em hype jobs, man? All 3 were respectable fighters who gave us some real fun fights.

There was a lotta fan buzz around Lucas but I dont think he got close to the same push Vic did promotionally despite probably being a better fighter. Similarly Brook was never hugely marketed despite being highly regarded by fans after the the Porter win.. besides I think Kells generally regarded as a top talent that was wasted or squandered rather than a dude who just wasn't anywhere near as good as sold.

I honestly feel when they were all up and coming they had crazy marketing hype around them. Brook was highly popular in the UK.

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Matthysse was good but the hype he had in 2012-2013 was insane.

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I agree wilder was the most overhyped fighter of the decade

From 2010 to 2020? Who was really hyping Wildier up that much yo give me the most overhype fighter ? All Americans knew he was trash.

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Wilder. Real competition = fought 2 lost 2. Don't get much hypier jobbier than that.

Nobody outside Wildier fans believed in him. While Ortiz had a whole Mexican American fan base labeling him the next Oscar or Vargas . Lucas was pushed as the next best thing and the favorite to beat Danny Garcia and got handed.

Deontay was always fighting bums.

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Brook was a very good fighter with a decent résumé, how's he on this list?

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Definitely Ortiz. He was almost the new Golden Boy. People genuinely thought he was going to threaten Mayweather, which was insane.

Matthysse is next. There was more than a little talk about him moving up to dominate welterweight, and a lot of people (myself included) thought he'd destroy Danny Garcia.

Brook wasn't overhyped. He was a good champion, he was considered such, there's nothing unfair there.

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I honestly feel when they were all up and coming they had crazy marketing hype around them. Brook was highly popular in the UK.

Vic had huge marketing hype around him sure, but I didn't see it so much with Matthysse.. He was a big fan favourite so maybe you mean he was overrated rather than overhyped, I was one amongst many who was wowwed by the power, but Lucas remained a solid contender right up to retirement.

As for Brook, well Im from the UK and I don't recall Kell being hyped more than any of our other champions and certainly less so than Khan even though I consider him to be significantly better...

What can I say? We hype all our guys, that's just the way it is..

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Why you gotta call em hype jobs, man? All 3 were respectable fighters who gave us some real fun fights.

There was a lotta fan buzz around Lucas but I dont think he got close to the same push Vic did promotionally despite probably being a better fighter. Similarly Brook was never hugely marketed despite being highly regarded by fans after the the Porter win.. besides I think Kells generally regarded as a top talent that was wasted or squandered rather than a dude who just wasn't anywhere near as good as sold.

Agree with you on this one. But I will say brook has been overhyped recently though.

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Agree with you on this one. But I will say brook has been overhyped recently though.

If he is I ain't seen much of it (if by recently you mean the last year or so)... in fact consensus seems to have been that old Kell will be pretty much a cherrypick for Bud, especially at 147. At 154 it's seen as a little better, but not much.

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The Flash. But much respect to Ryan bc when you have grown men in their 20s 30s 40s swooning over you, you must be doing something right.