Comments Thread For: Malignaggi: Wilder Got Gift in First Bout, Took Beating in Rematch

[Marvlus Marv]

Naw. Controversial view. Next he'll claim the Pope is a catholic and a diddler.

[Nash out]

Exactly. Fangirl emotions or nationalistic loyalties blind these people to reality. I gave Wilder the first or second, can’t remember, I scored the first knockdown 9-9 as it literally had no lasting effect and Fury clearly came out on top, and the second knockdown 10-8 because it actually did damage and allowed Wilder to land a few big follow up shots. That’s 116-111. Easy work. Knockdowns are scored with a point deduction, they don’t automatically give you a win in a round, let alone a fight.

Regarding Reiss; those people that say “but Reiss thought Wilder won most of the rounds blah blah blah” are the same people that completely discount what Reiss said regarding the 12th round knockdown and say he’s a shyt referee lol ya can’t have it both ways.

I’ll have to disagree on Joshua vs. Wilder though. My personal opinion is Joshua batters him within five rounds, but at the same time I wouldn’t be surprised if Wilder knocked him out. Joshua doesn’t have a chin like Fury, I think there’s very few, if any, that have some whiskers like The Gypsy King lol

I can definitely see Joshua winning it, I just think that if Wilder lands anything half decent, it might have Joshua stumbling and becoming a sitting duck, Wilder will go for broke if he has him rattled. One thing I have noticed with Joshua is that he doesn't hide being hurt too well. I can always tell when he has been effected. At the same time, he is a much better boxer than Wilder and I could easily see him knocking him out too. Would love to see that fight still.

[Boxviewer]

Malignaggi was just saying the obvious. It is clear that Wilder's trying to pick himself up but he's doing it wrongly. He is not acting like a tough guy or a warrior, he says he is. It's a shame.

[Squared.Circle]

I can definitely see Joshua winning it, I just think that if Wilder lands anything half decent, it might have Joshua stumbling and becoming a sitting duck, Wilder will go for broke if he has him rattled. One thing I have noticed with Joshua is that he doesn't hide being hurt too well. I can always tell when he has been effected. At the same time, he is a much better boxer than Wilder and I could easily see him knocking him out too. Would love to see that fight still.

I agree with it all. As much as I (deservedly) trash Wilder, his ridiculous power still makes all his fights a must watch for any boxing fan.

[Boxing_1013]

You call Fury feather fisted yet he had enough power to drop Wilder multiple times and beat him to a pulp. What is it, is Fury feather fisted? If so, does Wilder not have a chin made of paper? I can guarantee that body shot that dropped Wilder like a bag of rocks was a solid punch.

Calm down dude lol...in general Fury is the more feather fisted of the two comparing him to Wilder...I used feather fisted because Paulie himself was as feather fisted a champion as I've ever seen...so again he generally sides with the weaker puncher of the two fighters...because he sees himself in there in that role.

I mentioned that Fury's performance in fight 2 was one of the best I've ever seen live...so that's pretty high praise...but yeah in fight 1 he didn't really sit on his punches at all, did he...was much more aggressive in fight 2 and packed more of a punch.

But we were talking about why Paulie scored fight 1 the way he did...that was the point I made.

[Boxing_1013]

I can’t argue with that. “Exposed” “Robbed” “Dominated”, heck almost every term is abused in boxing. People say things about 12rnd decisions that had no KDs or even anyone getting wobbled that leave them no room left to describe more dramatic fights. The ref said that he had Wilder winning as the effective aggressor from his view in ring. Wilder was the one that got to Fury with the two knockdowns, while Fury had none. U can’t really be all that dominant in the grand scheme of things if it resulted in u getting planted in the 12th and not the other way around. I had Fury wining, but if it was the other way around u know Fury would be spouting off about the KDs and saying Wilder was on the way out. I was watching replays of the cruiser tournament. They had a fourth judge in case the three had it a draw. If the fourth judge had it a draw also then it would go to who had won the last round on most scorecards. It was a tough break for Fury for sure. But commentators always make a fuss about the championship rounds, even though they aren’t worth more than any other round. A flash KD in round one is worth as much as a KD in round 12. But if anyone HAD to pick one to be worth more, everyone would pick the 12th round KD for a plethora of obvious reasons.

I hear ya man...yeah even though I scored it a draw (3-3 through 6...then Fury dominating the last 6 other than getting dropped twice really)...I can see if someone had it to Fury by 8-4 or so...but I would just expect them to acknowledge that some of those rounds were in fact close rounds...it's not like Fury cleanly won every single round other than the 2 KDs.

And I really can't see how anyone can get to 6 rounds for Wilder...it would be extremely generous...so when you KD a guy twice, and you really have no business winning the fight...I mean that kind of says it all, that you got beat pretty badly outside the 2 KDs..but those 2 KDs are equalizers for sure.

[archiemoore1]

this is absolutely correct - good analysis

btw I was at the fight and practically nobody thought Wilder deserved the draw.
I was surrounded by Wilder fans and they thought he lost
as we walked out everyone was talking about how Wilder got a gift decision

Not this sh-t again. This is about Wilder....

Man, shut ur bum ass up. I'm talking about Paulie's hypocritical ass, thanks. Wilder got punished, what more is there to say about that fight that hasn't been said? Wilder was put on the ground with a body shot. No one can say that was because of a glove. Fury aimed, threw the shot, and it landed, period. And Fury was never feather fisted, i don't know why ppl think he is. He has at least 20 knockouts on his record. Knockouts come in many different ways. Some ppl have one punch power, some are fast and explosive, some break you down slowly. Fury is about 270. He's big and he does get ppl out of there. Just because he's slick and prefers to box and make ppl miss, doesn't mean he can't crack if he needs to. If all ppl see is his boxing and his defense and they sleep on his punching, that's on them.

[jmrf4435]

Okay, let's move on now. It's old news. Fury beat that ass it's done.

until the nonsense stops from his fans we will see it reiterated time and time again

[VatoMulatto]

Man, shut ur bum ass up. I'm talking about Paulie's hypocritical ass, thanks. Wilder got punished, what more is there to say about that fight that hasn't been said? Wilder was put on the ground with a body shot. No one can say that was because of a glove. Fury aimed, threw the shot, and it landed, period. And Fury was never feather fisted, i don't know why ppl think he is. He has at least 20 knockouts on his record. Knockouts come in many different ways. Some ppl have one punch power, some are fast and explosive, some break you down slowly. Fury is about 270. He's big and he does get ppl out of there. Just because he's slick and prefers to box and make ppl miss, doesn't mean he can't crack if he needs to. If all ppl see is his boxing and his defense and they sleep on his punching, that's on them.

You decided to write a book about Paulie's opinon on Pac to make your point?? Please, That's old news. There are tons and tons of threads about that subject stop beating a dead horse. Good to see you're now back on topic.

[Squ□redCircle34]

How did you score the fight? How many rounds did you give Wilder??

6-6 but the knockdowns made the difference so a one point Wilder win

Wilder was the effective aggressor and landed the harder shots plus scored two knockdowns!

He busted Fury’s nose and everyone said he didn’t land anything but the punches that scored the knockdowns in round 9 and 12 which is absolutely bullshît!

Fury landing patty cake shots on Wilder’s glove or the occasional 1-2 doesn’t win fights for me, especially if the champ is dictating the pace and scored two knockdowns with the last one being very close to being scored a KO!

The ref even said the draw was just and so many others, Fury said he was knocked out but that he thanked the ref for not following protocol!

I respect all opinions but IMO first fight if going by proper protocols, should’ve been KO victory for Wilder and the second is obviously Fury with the TKO win!

Everyone talks about Wilder should’ve lost every round but two and then even some say Wilder should’ve lost even those rounds is absolute lunacy!

I’ve never seen a fighter get dumped on so much but giving the said fighter who beat him all the praises in the world over!

Where’s the talk about how Fury beat Wilder in the second fight? No talk about the dirty tactics?

When it comes to Wilder so many are either over the top against him or over the top with him(not mentioning how he sometimes illegally hits opponents behind the head or with his forearm and etc)

How about give both men credit for putting all on the line not once but twice which is seldom in today’s boxing!