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  • Pigeons
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    #81
    Originally posted by ShoulderRoll
    Who has Crawford fought at 147 lbs?
    No one yet, but he can command the higher purses at 147 because of his accomplishments at 135 and 140. Pus his hometown following that puts 10-13K in a Nebraska arena every time he fights regardless of opponent. So I think he's adding value as well, maybe not as much as he's getting paid, but they'll make up for it by getting a Spence or Pacquiao fight eventually.

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      #82
      Originally posted by Pigeons
      No one yet, but he can command the higher purses at 147 because of his accomplishments at 135 and 140. Pus his hometown following that puts 10-13K in a Nebraska arena every time he fights regardless of opponent. So I think he's adding value as well, maybe not as much as he's getting paid, but they'll make up for it by getting a Spence or Pacquiao fight eventually.
      His PPV against Khan tanked.

      Outside of Omaha he isn't much of a draw.

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      • Slicc
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        #83
        Originally posted by Oldskoolg
        “You’re your own boss....Lion’s Only! So sign with me and fight on my app so I can use your fan base to sell subscriptions.”
        I guess fighting bums and getting gift decisions against 36 year olds is better than facing real fighters for career paydays. In Al we trust.

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        • rickJen
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          #84
          Hearn wasting his time on this clown.

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            #85
            Originally posted by Lonelystoner
            Eddie Hearn will joke around but he won't send the manager Al Haymon a contract. He says call Al because he wants to negotiate obviously but Hearn rather joke around and talk the fighter directly instead of doing real business, not realizing that his own fighters are fighting bums and on Youtubers undercards.
            Oh yeah, because peg-legged Heiland, old man Korobov and light middleweight nobodies Castano and Hogan were such better opposition, right?

            Originally posted by Lonelystoner
            Charlo says he's his own boss because he has his own promotional company 'Lions Only' which means he doesnt need a guy like Hearn taking a percentage from him just for him to end up frozen out and broke like Andrade is. It shouldn't be hard to call his manager Al Haymon if you're serious about a fight.
            How is he his own boss, when Al Haymon's the one calling the shots? Who does he have in his stable at Lions Only Promotions, that he can just turn down $7m like it's nothing?

            Originally posted by Lonelystoner
            Andrade literally fought on a youtubers undercard on a thursday night.
            Andrade probably made more money fighting on a Thursday night YouTuber card, than Charlo made fighting anywhere at any time.

            Originally posted by Lonelystoner
            Canelo and GGG both ducked Charlo when he became mandatory and they were ordered to fight him.
            And now he's turned down offers to fight both Canelo and Andrade, and apparently plans to move up. Funny how the tables turned.

            Originally posted by Lonelystoner
            Jacobs claimed he wanted to fight Charlo at 160 then immediately started whining about not being able to make weight after wining a vacant belt so obviously he wasn't serious about fighting Charlo.
            Looks like someone didn't do their homework. Jacobs beat Derevy for the IBF title in late 2018; Mall didn't get his WBC world title until after Canelo vacated it in mid-2019, after beating Jacobs in a unification bout. If Jacobs beat Canelo, he would've been mandated to face Mall instead of Canelo. Also, can we not pretend like Jacobs was never having weight issues at 160? He gave up a title shot against GGG by skipping the IBF same day weigh in, and that was in 2017. He was fined by Canelo for not obeying the rehydration clause he signed up for. Jacobs didn't have much time left at 160.

            Originally posted by Lonelystoner
            Eddie Hearn needs to worry about what bum GGG, Canelo, BJS, and Andrade will be fighting next cause we all know whoever they are gonna fight will be no better than the guys Charlo is fighting.
            Canelo was actually planning to fight Saunders, but might actually fight GGG, since that fight fell through.

            Originally posted by Lonelystoner
            GGG will fight Kamil Szeremeta
            GGG was supposed to fight Kamil 2 months ago, but the coronavirus pandemic threw a wrench in those plans. Now, he could fight Canelo a 3rd time instead.

            Originally posted by Lonelystoner
            Jacobs fought Julio Cesar Chavez Jr
            It was his 1st match at 168, and he was coming off a loss to an elite fighter in Canelo.

            Originally posted by Lonelystoner
            BJS fought Marcelo Esteban Coceres
            Saunders was about to fight Canelo, but screwed himself over with that domestic abuse video. He's gonna have to figure out that situation before he decides who he's fighting next.

            Originally posted by Lonelystoner
            Andrade fought Luke Keeler
            Andrade was cheated out of a match with Saunders, and Mall wouldn't even fight him for $7m. Canelo said he doesn't wanna fight him, and GGG hasn't said anything at all about fight him. I don't understand who exactly you expect Andrade to fight, when up until now, nobody at 160 wanted to see him. If Mall vacates, Andrade may finally get a chance at unifiying.

            Imagine talking this much shit about the opposition of these guys, when Mall's best middleweight opponent was a 36 year old Korobov, who got robbed.
            Last edited by Slicc; 05-03-2020, 02:28 AM.

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            • Apollo7
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              #86
              Originally posted by Jax teller
              PBC aren't making the offers for other fighters this renders your whole post meaningless.

              All well and good guessing "PBC could probably pay better" they haven't been trying and they didn't for Wilder Breazealle finkel confirmed that saying they'd make it up to Wilder in future because they've got a cunning plan...

              Hearns always said if a fighter gets a bigger offer from the other network they can take it and PBC never make the offers they just talk a big game also Hearn has let a couple of his champs on top rank shows so its more proof he would.

              No ones getting owned, this is another bit of misinformation used as an excuse to duck, lots of one fight deals with everything up for negotiation but the PBC guys don't bother going to the negotiation table. It's all clear for everyone to see who's not serious.
              This is how it seems from my neutral pov. Pbc do seem more reluctant to make offers and negotiate with outsiders.

              If Charlo and Andrade fight, the winner has two belts and is a unified champ. That gives them some good leverage and a claim for #1 in the division. Canelo may never fight at 160 again and GGG is getting old.

              While Canelo and GGG are fighting each other or whoever else, it makes so much sense for Charlo and Andrade to fight each other.

              It's better for the sport of boxing and fans if rival networks and promoters are willing to work together.

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                #87
                Originally posted by DaNeutral.
                You are in serious denial.
                lol why wasn’t AJs purse reported to the New York State Athletic Commission when virtually every fighter who fight in NY purse is reported. Just answer that one question

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                  #88
                  Originally posted by Cool Scant
                  lol why wasn’t AJs purse reported to the New York State Athletic Commission when virtually every fighter who fight in NY purse is reported. Just answer that one question
                  LOL I don't know the answer to that but if you think Joshua and his team lie about how much they get then surely that just means their offers to Wilder have actually been BETTER AND MORE FAIR OFFERS than they already looked.

                  But then Wilder fans were jumping with joy when Wilder made it on to the Forbes list. It was all the proof that Wilder is a star and all the proof of the good money he has started getting. Can't argue with Forbes.

                  Anthony Joshua sat well above a wilder on that very same list but thats lies is it?

                  I dont even know why we debating the money. There's only dumb Joshua haters pulling those strings. You can't prove nothing like I can't prove nothing. But atleast im going off the documented numbers. Your just choosing to not believe stuff cuz it suits your narrative.

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                  • Cool Scant
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                    #89
                    Originally posted by DaNeutral.
                    LOL I don't know the answer to that but if you think Joshua and his team lie about how much they get then surely that just means their offers to Wilder have actually been BETTER AND MORE FAIR OFFERS than they already looked.

                    But then Wilder fans were jumping with joy when Wilder made it on to the Forbes list. It was all the proof that Wilder is a star and all the proof of the good money he has started getting. Can't argue with Forbes.

                    Anthony Joshua sat well above a wilder on that very same list but thats lies is it?

                    I dont even know why we debating the money. There's only dumb Joshua haters pulling those strings. You can't prove nothing like I can't prove nothing. But atleast im going off the documented numbers. Your just choosing to not believe stuff cuz it suits your narrative.
                    Since when has Forbes become a credible source for boxing information. Forbes provides estimates. IMO The only credible earnings regarding boxers earnings from Forbes are Canelo and maybe GGG. I don’t believe wilder made $30M or whatever they said and I damn sure don’t believe anything they say about AJ.

                    Like you say if we both can’t prove anything (although wilders minimum purses can be verified by an Athletic Commission that’s more information then we have regarding any of AJs earnings) AJs offers are still terrible based on prospective percentage splits and bs flat fee compared to the other deals that martin and Parker got to fight AJ.

                    Also AJ fans are the reason why money is always debated. They’re the ones that always bring it up.

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                      #90
                      Originally posted by Cool Scant
                      Since when has Forbes become a credible source for boxing information. Forbes provides estimates. IMO The only credible earnings regarding boxers earnings from Forbes are Canelo and maybe GGG. I don’t believe wilder made $30M or whatever they said and I damn sure don’t believe anything they say about AJ.

                      Like you say if we both can’t prove anything (although wilders minimum purses can be verified by an Athletic Commission that’s more information then we have regarding any of AJs earnings) AJs offers are still terrible based on prospective percentage splits and bs flat fee compared to the other deals that martin and Parker got to fight AJ.

                      Also AJ fans are the reason why money is always debated. They’re the ones that always bring it up.
                      LMAO you must be some muppet to say AJ ain't rolling in it from the PPV figures alone.

                      Also it's you lot saying AJ is low-balling Wilder/Parker/Ruiz for 10-15 million of that's his opponents purses when Wilder who had the biggest purse at the time (3mil) then it's clear AJ is making much more.

                      If you stopped using 'low-ball' as an excuse for Wilders ducking the money issue wouldn't be raised.

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