Comments Thread For: Jermall Charlo, Eddie Hearn Have Odd Exchange on Social Media

[ShoulderRoll]

He is his own boss, and Mr. Haymon is his advisor. President Trump is the Commander-in-Chief of the United States. However, if you want to talk about a trade deal, he will refer you to his economic advisor. If you wish to talk about a diplomatic issue, he will refer you to his appointee at the State Department. In the case of Jermall Charlo (and many others) he is co-owner of Lions Only Promotions. However, if you wish to schedule a huge boxing event, he (and many others) will refer you to his trusted advisor, Mr. Al Haymon. I'm sure Mr. Hearn can find the phone number! It's really not that hard!

I mean, a boss makes the final call on the big decisions. If there is a $7 million offer Charlo should know it's in his best interest to take it.

Nobody else is giving him that amount of money for one fight.

[Bronx2245]

I mean, a boss makes the final call on the big decisions. If there is a $7 million offer Charlo should know it's in his best interest to take it.

Nobody else is giving him that amount of money for one fight.

Of course the boss makes the final call, but first he has his accountant, his lawyer, or his TRUSTED ADVISOR, run the numbers, etc. It's done all the time, all over the world. I'm sure Mr. Hearn has to be familiar with this practice!

If you're interested in doing business WITH SOMEONE, and they say, "call my lawyer," what do you do?

If someone wants to do business WITH YOU, and you tell them, "call my lawyer," and they tell you they refuse to talk to your lawyer, what do you do? Doesn't the person seem a little shady because they don't want to talk to your lawyer, or your accountant, and they want you to make a decision WITHOUT your lawyer or accountant?

[White Mandela]

A Charlho and a slime ball.

[Cool Scant]

Joshua isn't allowed to live a flash life because his fanbase is based around his 'humble' persona.

Rest assured, he's absolutely rolling in it.

I would love to believe that. But unfortunately none of AJs purse can be verified by an Athletic Commission. I’m sure he’s rich but is he really raking in the dough like his fans suggest?

[Cool Scant]

I’d like to know when the fan/promoter (ie Eddie Hearn) tactic of attacking a fighters finances became acceptable only boxing. I don’t recall fans of any other sport spewing this stuff. Eddie Hearn has brought some very insecure effeminate fans to boxing. Females pocket watch and obsess with men’s bank accounts.

I totally agree!! And that’s part of the reason why the wilder fight didn’t get made. That’s why I will never buy DAZN, assist Hearn and AJs fan base in their bragging about money thus enabling them to always want to give the opponent the worse deal possible. Funny thing is when this Mayweather v Pacquiao fiasco was happening I bought all of their PPVs before they fought each other. Primarily because the both fought killers. AJ fans not only condone the A side shenanigans but over rate his resume. It’s really no need to watch an AJ fight if it’s not on hbo showtime or another cable channel I have

[Jax teller]

I would love to believe that. But unfortunately none of AJs purse can be verified by an Athletic Commission. I’m sure he’s rich but is he really raking in the dough like his fans suggest?

Well he's breaking UK PPV records. Cheaper than US but the numbers make up for that. His last fight sold over 1.5 ppvs at £25 so the fight made over £37.5 mil/$48.8 on uk PPV alone thats before the reported monster site fees and DAZN rights fee are added.

And you can see the crowds he draws on your television. Had more fans in his fight in the US against Ruiz with higher ticket prices than Wilder did fighting Breazealle.

Also has alot of big corporate sponsorships compared to the other fighters

You'd have to be pretty delusional to suggest he isn't 'raking it in' he is atleast the second biggest draw in boxing.

Pretty fkn weird to be des*****g this point about AJ.

[MastaBlasta]

LoL, as always with hearn it's the details in the fine print that are probably stopping an Andrade/Charlo fight. Jermall referred him to Al Haymon 'cause everyone knows that's who reviews the contract to weed out the BS.

When it comes to Haymon accepting any big fights with hearn, it will probably only go forward if PERCENTAGES can be agreed on. PBC isn't gonna be shortballed on a big promotion just because it's a fighters biggest payday. If the other guy is getting 12 million, and they're both Champions ... 7 million (while a nice payday for most) isn't FAIR against the revenue the fight will draw. Same logjam as the hearn proposed Wilder/AJ contracts. hearns basic negotiating stance of "we're A side so we get twice the money is BS and until PBC has to accept that (if ever), they won't be down for that ...

hearn knows it, so he's just clowning for the fan-girls and UK piublic .... trying to look like he is making "lifetime' offers .....

I.e. more BS

[Jax teller]

Of course the boss makes the final call, but first he has his accountant, his lawyer, or his TRUSTED ADVISOR, run the numbers, etc. It's done all the time, all over the world. I'm sure Mr. Hearn has to be familiar with this practice!

If you're interested in doing business WITH SOMEONE, and they say, "call my lawyer," what do you do?

If someone wants to do business WITH YOU, and you tell them, "call my lawyer," and they tell you they refuse to talk to your lawyer, what do you do? Doesn't the person seem a little shady because they don't want to talk to your lawyer, or your accountant, and they want you to make a decision WITHOUT your lawyer or accountant?

On the other hand if you're making an offer to someone and you know there 'lawyer' has conflicts of interest such as not letting compititors to their associated businesses (like the networks) gain traction and would be willing to advise the client against what's best for them then you might want to meet direct with the guy you're offering it to.

Prime case would be Wilder taking less than 20 mil for the Breazealle fight in name of loyalty. This was confirmed when Finkel said he would earn almost 20 mil and would later be made up for it because of Finkels master plan. It definitely hasn't worked out and the guys should have paid Wilder his 20 mil for Breazealle, that was a one way loyalty thing where they took advantage of Wilder.

Also Hearn never suggested he won't deal with the fighters team he just wants the fighter there direct.

Guys like Tank confirmed he never got one of Hearns offers from his team but brushes it off saying if it was a good offer his team would have told him. Very su****ious when the teams aren't letting the fighters know the offers available, also makes it apparent why Hearn would want to go direct..

[Jax teller]

LoL, as always with hearn it's the details in the fine print that are probably stopping an Andrade/Charlo fight. Jermall referred him to Al Haymon 'cause everyone knows that's who reviews the contract to weed out the BS.

When it comes to Haymon accepting any big fights with hearn, it will probably only go forward if PERCENTAGES can be agreed on. PBC isn't gonna be shortballed on a big promotion just because it's a fighters biggest payday. If the other guy is getting 12 million, and they're both Champions ... 7 million (while a nice payday for most) isn't FAIR against the revenue the fight will draw. Same logjam as the hearn proposed Wilder/AJ contracts. hearns basic negotiating stance of "we're A side so we get twice the money is BS and until PBC has to accept that (if ever), they won't be down for that ...

hearn knows it, so he's just clowning for the fan-girls and UK piublic .... trying to look like he is making "lifetime' offers .....

I.e. more BS

Yeah except DAZN isn't PPV.

If it was Charlo wouldn't be making 7mil against Andrade.

A Canelo opponent would be lucky to make that.

Plus even if Andrade was earning more for the fight maybe that's cost of DAZN investing in his future since he has a contract with them so they could make some of the money back in the future if they can build him right.

Charlo should only be comparing to what he could earn on his own network for the fight and what he has previously earnt. If he want's more from DAZN maybe he should consider longer term business with DAZN, doesn't make business sense for DAZN to invest in other networks fighters.

[Bronx2245]

On the other hand if you're making an offer to someone and you know there 'lawyer' has conflicts of interest such as not letting compititors to their associated businesses (like the networks) gain traction and would be willing to advise the client against what's best for them then you might want to meet direct with the guy you're offering it to.

Prime case would be Wilder taking less than 20 mil for the Breazealle fight in name of loyalty. This was confirmed when Finkel said he would earn almost 20 mil and would later be made up for it because of Finkels master plan. It definitely hasn't worked out and the guys should have paid Wilder his 20 mil for Breazealle, that was a one way loyalty thing where they took advantage of Wilder.

Also Hearn never suggested he won't deal with the fighters team he just wants the fighter there direct.

Guys like Tank confirmed he never got one of Hearns offers from his team but brushes it off saying if it was a good offer his team would have told him. Very su****ious when the teams aren't letting the fighters know the offers available, also makes it apparent why Hearn would want to go direct..

Here we are in 2020, debating free agency, or the client/agent model in boxing, when it's been most successful (for the athlete) for MLB, NBA, and NFL in the U.S.! No one has a problem calling Scott Boras, or Drew Rosenhaus, or Maverick Carter, or Rich Paul, when they want to sign NBA, NFL, or MLB athletes. It seems like only boxing and boxing fans desire their athletes to sign to promoters like Don King and Bob Arum. They like that model because they saw big fights, while their idols got ass-****d, and retired broke AF!

Basically Charlo (and others) are saying "I'm the Boss, but call my agent!" This is nothing different than Kobe, Lebron, Zion, Brady, Mahomes, Lamar, or Aaron Judge would say. Why is it so hard for this model to work in boxing? We know what the promoters did to fighters before Al Haymon. How is it that they are the heroes, and he is the villain? We don't see PBC fighters suing to get out of contracts. We don't see PBC fighters talking about taking $100-150K shorts on fights. We don't see PBC fighters talking about being charged $2K a month for towels. We don't see PBC offices raided by the Feds. Why is Al Haymon such a threat?