Is Carlos Monzon greater than Ali with a better jab than Larry Holmes?

[Chollo Vista]

A few in NSB are telling me this.

Can anyone confirm or deny?

[Boxing_1013]

In my opinion, absolutely not, and 100% not even close

[just the facts]

A few in NSB are telling me this.

Can anyone confirm or deny?

No and hell no.

[Chollo Vista]

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IronDanHamza

Please clarify

[sunny31]

When you first watch monzon fight you think hes ****, but after a while you start to get it. Amazing Jab, incredibly strong, chin, power.

But no hes not those things.

Ali and Holmes are two of the greatest ever in any weight class

[Kagami Taiga]

Monzon is great. Perhaps the greatest MW of all time. He is not greater than Ali though.

[4truth]

How can you make meaningful comparisons between MWs and HWs? You can not...

Monzon had a great jab, a great 1-2... but I think overall he's overrated by many

[BoloShot]

Lol did you just make this out of spite hahahaha? I said he has one of the best jabs ever with Holmes' being the only one probably better. I also do think Ali is immensely overrated based on what ifs and dodgy decisions/tactics.
Frazier X2, Liston (don't count the dive), Foreman (slackened ropes), Norton X2 (robberies), other assorted good but not great fighters.
VS
Griffith X2, Benvenuti X2, Valdés X2, Nápoles, Briscoe and other assorted good but not great fighters. All in non-controversial fashion.
Hmmm let me think. Oh wait I don't have to.

[travestyny]

A few in NSB are telling me this.

Can anyone confirm or deny?

Say what? Really?


No. lol.

[BoloShot]

When you first watch monzon fight you think hes ****, but after a while you start to get it. Amazing Jab, incredibly strong, chin, power.

But no hes not those things.

Ali and Holmes are two of the greatest ever in any weight class

Ali and Holmes are great but I don't think they're greater than Monzón respectively.