Is Carlos Monzon greater than Ali with a better jab than Larry Holmes?

[BoloShot]

How can you make meaningful comparisons between MWs and HWs? You can not...

Monzon had a great jab, a great 1-2... but I think overall he's overrated by many

How's he overrated when he's beaten such great fighters with no controversy? There are very few who've been that utterly dominant.

[BoloShot]

Say what? Really?


No. lol.

He's making up that I said Monzón had a better jab than Holmes and I do think he's ultimately got the better of great fighters in more dominant fashion than Ali ever did, hence why his great wins are underrated.

[BoloShot]

How can you make meaningful comparisons between MWs and HWs? You can not...

Monzon had a great jab, a great 1-2... but I think overall he's overrated by many

By the way I tried to make the point that heavyweights exist in their own sphere compared to other fighters due to the nature of the division to this fool but he brushed that aside like it meant nothing.

[Chollo Vista]

Even compared to heavyweights he's up there too due to the names on his résumé. Holmes doesn't come close. Ali isn't quite there either. Louis is the same.

I'm not saying that, it's just clear that it you're not familiar with quite literally the best fighter ever

I named at least 5 fighters that were greater than Monzon. I also named 3 in his own weight class.

Then I named almost 10 with a better jab and yet this "historian" still doesn't get it

[Chollo Vista]

I do think he's ultimately got the better of great fighters in more dominant fashion than Ali ever did, hence why his great wins are underrated.

With 9 draws? And losing to sub par opponents in his prime?

Comparing him to Ali, what's wrong with you man?

Tell me someone Monzon beat greater than Liston in his prime?

[BoloShot]

What are the chances he's raging up there?^^ I put him on ignore because he's so incredibly impossible to argue with on any opinion. I bet he's bloody livid.

[Chollo Vista]

What are the chances he's raging up there?^^ I put him on ignore because he's so incredibly impossible to argue with on any opinion. I bet he's bloody livid.

Dude, you have a whole forum telling you you re wrong. But you put me on ignore and post in my thread for telling you the same thing?

You're wrong man. You cant find one reputable source that will agree that Monzon is greater than Ali or had a better jab than any of the guy's I mentioned, let alone Larry Holmes.

Monzon isn't even a greater MW than Hagler, Robinson or Greb.

What's wrong with you, man?

[KillaMane26]

There is always "a few" pulling out things outta the crack of their ass

[Chollo Vista]

There is always "a few" pulling out things outta the crack of their ass

I mean many of the guy's won't even respond to the dude.

I'm actually trying to help the guy

[KillaMane26]

I mean many of the guy's won't even respond to the dude.

I'm actually trying to help the guy

Lol bless ya heart