Fighters who are better/worse than their records suggest.

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  • RJJ-94-02=GOAT
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    #31
    Originally posted by Curt Henning
    ive always been one of boo boos biggest critics....but i also have always pulled for him since were both from RI.....but i do hate seeing on that list as "worse"...simply because im dying to see him fight someone so we can actually find out if he belongs on that list or not....i just hate watching his career because i cant tell what he is....
    I’m not denying his talent. It’s just based on his record, his best win is still Vanes. It’s a shame the BJS fight fell apart that could’ve given him a very good win.

    I’d like to see him fight Derevyanchenko.

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    • JK1700
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      #32
      Originally posted by Curt Henning
      griffin DQ win over roy is hardly a real win...ko'd in rematch.....
      I consider it a real win. He was winning the fight up to that point. Not like he was just completely getting his ass kicked, plus it’s Roy’s fault he got DQd. Lennox Lewis crushes Rahman in the rematch but doesn’t mean the first fight doesn’t count.

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      • RJJ-94-02=GOAT
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        #33
        Originally posted by JK1700
        The Hoye fight was an absolute robbery. Even the commentators said it was absolutely ridiculous and I think Griffin would’ve had a very good chance of beating Clinton Woods. Had the kind of style to trouble him. Just the fact the guy was 5-7 or 5-8 against these kind of guys and held his own gets respect from me.
        Yeah I’d have definitely picked him to beat Clinton in his prime but I thought Griffin was a little bit past it by then.

        He was excellent at “fighting small”, underrated technically IMO. He’s possibly RJJ’s best win at 175.

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        • Quicksilver*
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          #34
          Originally posted by KingHippo
          To me, it'll always be Darnell Boone. Emmanuel Augustus also comes to mind.
          Good shout on Augustus. Always gave just as good as he got. When he really focused he could cause real problems. Always clowned around way too much, especially later in his career.

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          • Curt Henning
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            #35
            Originally posted by JK1700
            I consider it a real win. He was winning the fight up to that point. Not like he was just completely getting his ass kicked, plus it’s Roy’s fault he got DQd. Lennox Lewis crushes Rahman in the rematch but doesn’t mean the first fight doesn’t count.
            griffin was down on 2 scorecards by round 9 and was in the midst of taking a 10-8 round after the knee he took

            HE WAS NOT WINNING the fight....

            not even close to comparing lewis/rahman...not EVEN CLOSE....lewis got stopped....roy didnt...he got dq'd

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            • VatoMulatto
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              #36
              Iran Barkley, 43-19-1. Barkley does live off his two wins against Hearns to a certain extent but Iran was a bad dude in the ring. He was much better than all those losses suggest.

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              • Shadoww702
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                #37
                Better

                Austin Trout
                Salido
                Boone
                Miguel Roman
                Ike Quarty
                Oba Carr
                Joel Casamayor
                Felix Sturm
                Luis Ortiz
                Badou Jack
                Linares


                Worse

                Joe Calzaghe
                Billy Hoe Saunders
                Callum Smith
                Chris John
                Dillian Whyte
                Ryota Murata
                Tank Davis
                Last edited by Shadoww702; 04-26-2020, 08:21 AM.

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                • Shadoww702
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                  #38
                  David Reid also is better than his record. Even dropped Trinidad before detached his eye and he never psychologically recovered from it...

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                  • SplitSecond
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                    #39
                    Martin Murray.

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                    • deathofaclown
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                      #40
                      Originally posted by larryx...
                      Rosado and Chisora are EXACTLY how their records read....
                      I’d agree with that

                      neither can cut it the top level, but had more opportunities than most to try. Hence the amount of losses.

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