Fighters who are better/worse than their records suggest.

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  • RJJ-94-02=GOAT
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    #11
    Originally posted by larryx...
    meaning they are average fighters,nothing special or elite about them especially rosado
    For a 25-12 guy he has a good resume. Ouma, Karass, Powell, Clottey etc.

    How many guys get to say 15 to 20 and 0 without even fighting anyone near that level.

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    • j0zef
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      #12
      Better
      Estrada
      Pascal
      Donaire
      Chisora
      Lara
      Pac
      Sergiy
      Porter

      Worse
      Horn
      JCC Jr
      Jermall
      Valdez
      LSC
      Easter Jr
      Postol

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      • KingHippo
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        #13
        To me, it'll always be Darnell Boone. Emmanuel Augustus also comes to mind.

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        • BoloShot
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          #14
          This is a good idea. Two guys I remember being very good but underappreciated were Davey Moore and Keith Mullings.

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          • RJJ-94-02=GOAT
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            #15
            Originally posted by BoloShot
            This is a good idea. Two guys I remember being very good but underappreciated were Davey Moore and Keith Mullings.
            Always rated Moore myself, a lot of guys from that era are under-appreciated because it had so much depth. Especially from 135-160.

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            • RJJ-94-02=GOAT
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              #16
              Originally posted by KingHippo
              To me, it'll always be Darnell Boone. Emmanuel Augustus also comes to mind.
              Yeah Augustus is a good shout if we’re talking all time. He retired with 30+ losses I think.

              Glen Johnson would be another one I’d throw in from a few years back.

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              • Cobra Curry
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                #17
                Herol "Bomber" Graham
                Colin McMillan

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                • BoloShot
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                  #18
                  Originally posted by RJJ-94-02=GOAT
                  Always rated Moore myself, a lot of guys from that era are under-appreciated because it had so much depth. Especially from 135-160.
                  Too right. I forgot Carlos Molina had a deceptively bad record too. He's another good shout.

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                  • RJJ-94-02=GOAT
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                    #19
                    Originally posted by BoloShot
                    Too right. I forgot Carlos Molina had a deceptively bad record too. He's another good shout.
                    Yeah definitely... good shout.

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                    • JK1700
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                      #20
                      Some classic examples - I’ve done guys better than their records because saying guys are overrated is the easy thing to do. This shows the importance of having a great promoter behind you, because a lot of these guys suffered in a major way because of a lack of that. Different story if they had a Eddie Hearn or Leonard Ellerbe behind them. Today’s fighters are so blessed when you think about it.

                      Montell Griffin - Has wins of Toney and Roy Jones Jr. Was winning every round against Michalczewski as well before the controversial stoppage, seemed like a dodgy referee to me. Plus he probably would’ve won another belt if he didn’t get straight robbed against Rico Hoye.

                      Emanuel Augustus - This one can’t be emphasised enough. This guy was robbed more times than I can count and always gave a great fight even in his losses. Very tough fighter.

                      Glen Johnson - Kind of a mixture of the other two. Some of his close losses are legit but a lot of them were super close. I’ve seen a lot of them and I might need to refresh but there’s at least 6-7 losses on his record that could easily be wins. I guess that’s the problem with being the “Road Warrior” if he had a big promoter behind him it would’ve been very different. I think I had him beating Dawson and Cloud and that was 6 years after his wins over Tarver and Roy. Gotta respect that guy despite his record. As tough as it gets.
                      Last edited by JK1700; 04-23-2020, 02:36 PM.

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