If Wilder KO’s Fury in the final installment, is he still a “bum?”

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  • KillaMane26
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    #31
    Originally posted by REDEEMER
    Yea that’s logical ,one could have Fury at one or two . AJ hasn’t lost to the same guy 3 times however so in no way is it the same circumstances as Wilder .
    If he get dominated and no draw he won't have the chance to!

    How often is a guy that loses every round in three back to back fights? Only reason is that Draw which came from his right hand and judge luck.

    These 3 fights is very rare

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      #32
      Originally posted by KillaMane26
      If he get dominated and no draw he won't have the chance to!

      How often is a guy that loses every round in three back to back fights? Only reason is that Draw which came from his right hand and judge luck.

      These 3 fights is very rare
      I think Wilder will be tougher to get out next time , it depends what training Fury will be doing but the break in boxing now benefits Wilder . Fury will get a UD in the third fight imop ,maybe give up a round or two if he’s ahead if he gets a knockdown on Wilder ? Unless Fury goes down I don’t see him taking chances if he’s up to even where the judges cannot rob him which is doubtful now that Arum is in control basically of the event .

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        #33
        Originally posted by REDEEMER
        There’s nothing easy at all in that fight ,it’s a close one with AJ nearing his 25th fight ,that’s when heavyweights usually have that extra know how and if AJ gets 26 fights under him I favor him late in that fight .
        I respect your opinion however I feel your going to be very wrong. You did well picking him to KO Fury ill give you that, but didn't you pick Wallin to beat him?

        I think Wallin is a good fighter btw, and not just because he gave Fury an uncomfortable nights work. A big, tough, strong southpaw with decent skills and a good engine. I don't think many top fighters will be keen on fighting him, high risk low reward.

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          #34
          Originally posted by denium
          I respect your opinion however I feel your going to be very wrong. You did well picking him to KO Fury ill give you that, but didn't you pick Wallin to beat him?

          I think Wallin is a good fighter btw, and not just because he gave Fury an uncomfortable nights work. A big, tough, strong southpaw with decent skills and a good engine. I don't think many top fighters will be keen on fighting him, high risk low reward.
          I picked Wallin because Fury was in promotion stage , I knew Wallin was a tough southpaw and could cause a cut which happened. Fury would have a tough time against Wallin ,I think Wallin had only 20 fights with not many rounds going into that one which helped Fury .Im not rating Wallin over him it’s just a one fight off , I would favor Fury in a rematch .

          AJ , Fury and Hrgovic are the true killers in the division these are my top 3 .

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            #35
            Originally posted by REDEEMER
            I picked Wallin because Fury was in promotion stage , I knew Wallin was a tough southpaw and could cause a cut which happened. Fury would have a tough time against Wallin ,I think Wallin had only 20 fights with not many rounds going into that one which helped Fury .Im not rating Wallin over him it’s just a one fight off , I would favor Fury in a rematch .

            AJ , Fury and Hrgovic are the true killers in the division these are my top 3 .
            I rate Hrgovic, in fact I think he looks like a beast but it's too early to be putting him in the same bracket as those two. What about Dubois?

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              #36
              Originally posted by REDEEMER
              I think Wilder will be tougher to get out next time , it depends what training Fury will be doing but the break in boxing now benefits Wilder . Fury will get a UD in the third fight imop ,maybe give up a round or two if he’s ahead if he gets a knockdown on Wilder ? Unless Fury goes down I don’t see him taking chances if he’s up to even where the judges cannot rob him which is doubtful now that Arum is in control basically of the event .
              I said the same... This break benefits Wilder alot especially if he swallows his pride behind closed doors.

              Imo Wilder should just make this fight a war.... Thats the only way he can save face. The public will always forgive a loss if u make it a war.

              But getting outclassed or beat up again.... Will look too bad and will kill his drawing power and leverage in future fights

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                #37
                He's not a bum clearly, just isn't that good either.

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                  #38
                  Originally posted by KillaMane26
                  The question is..... If Wilder won should he take the immediate rematch. I know he would be should he?
                  No, he should fight Joshua and let the winner settle it with the loser of Wilder-Fury III.

                  That said, if Wilder didn't fight Fury next and Joshua did, I'd have no problem with that.

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                    #39
                    Originally posted by Marchegiano
                    No, he should fight Joshua and let the winner settle it with the loser of Wilder-Fury III.

                    That said, if Wilder didn't fight Fury next and Joshua did, I'd have no problem with that.
                    That doesn’t even make sense , let me see here ,you want Wilder to fight AJ and the winner settle it with the loser of Wilder vs Fury who Wilder is fighting anyway ? Here we go again.....ha

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                      #40
                      The same dudes that dont give Wilder credit for beating Ortiz are the same dudes that say Luke Campbell is a top lightweight

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