If Wilder KO’s Fury in the final installment, is he still a “bum?”

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Yes but now Fury has the higher standard. If let’s say it goes you the cards legitimately as a close fight, then doesn’t it prove that Wilder had an off night? If Wilder is considered so bad in Fundamentals and the smaller man, then Fury has no excuse for how he loses in the 3rd fight any shape or form.

I feel AJ is the best HW.

The fact that Wilder wasn’t dropped but dropped Fury twice in the first means I can give Deontay benefit of the doubt that he had a significant off night. Even Steve Kim has said, as well as Bradley, that Teofimo Lopez has personal problems at “home” when he fought poorly against the Japanese guy...

Wilder not getting dropped from a still getting back to form Fury doesn’t mean much ,had Fury not clowned around and got smug he wouldn’t have went down in the last round , Wilder only took that fight thinking he wasn’t ready , Finkle admitted that after the fight by saying they were surprised of how good Fury was ,you don’t take fights thinking the other guy isn’t ready unless it’s planned .


I suspect Fury will win by UD next time , not getting a knockout doesn’t make Wilder the real thing , some fights you aren’t going to get them . Fury will get an aggressive Wilder and play it safe imop but if they fight 5 times you would see Wilder get stopped at least 2 times .

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in his mind he will be king and in most other minds he will be a poor boxer who can punch hard

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For losing to the best HW of his era? Nah.

Now if Joshua loses to another clinically obese man, what does he go down as?

Wilder only has one legit win worth note and I believe that guy is way over the age he’s claiming because I’m that age and then some . A Wilder loss would not only look that damaging again but he hasn’t defeated any actual proven fighter has he ?


If AJ loses it doesn’t matter he’s already avenged a loss and most would expect it again ,either way he’s fought the tougher guys in rotation which makes that harder to stay champion, we don’t know if Fury could do that if he fought a Wallin , AJ, Hrgovic, Povetkin, Whyte , Hunter , etc , etc ...because he hasn’t defended a title yet and doing it against Wilder doesn’t show me much because I gave Wilder a 20% chance to win the first time and even less the second ,now I don’t see it at all .

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Wilder only has one legit win worth note and I believe that guy is way over the age he’s claiming because I’m that age and then some . A Wilder loss would not only look that damaging again but he hasn’t defeated any actual proven fighter has he ?


If AJ loses it doesn’t matter he’s already avenged a loss and most would expect it again ,either way he’s fought the tougher guys in rotation which makes that harder to stay champion, we don’t know if Fury could do that if he fought a Wallin , AJ, Hrgovic, Povetkin, Whyte , Hunter , etc , etc ...because he hasn’t defended a title yet and doing it against Wilder doesn’t show me much because I gave Wilder a 20% chance to win the first time and even less the second ,now I don’t see it at all .

He's beaten Ortiz twice and got a draw against Fury, even if Fury beats him again he won't go down as "the biggest joke in boxing"

He'll go down as an overrated champion who got found out at the very top level.

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He's beaten Ortiz twice and got a draw against Fury, even if Fury beats him again he won't go down as "the biggest joke in boxing"

He'll go down as an overrated champion who got found out at the very top level.

I don’t know any boxer that turned down 120 million and had cherry picks backfire and made costume excuses and knocked out special ed kids at his gym the list goes on and on , sorry but this guy is a comedy show with a big punch .

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I don’t know any boxer that turned down 120 million and had cherry picks backfire and made costume excuses and the knocked out special ed kids at his gym , sorry but this guy is a comedy show with a big punch .

Opinions i suppose, personally i'd say that David Haye would go down as a bigger joke in the HW division.

Stank the place out against Klitschko after talking all the sh** in the world and then blamed his loss on his little toe, then faced a couple of bums and got retired by Bellew.

Say what you want about Wilder but he was a 5yr unbeaten champion in the division, even if the vast majority of his opposition was sub-par.

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Opinions i suppose, personally i'd say that David Haye would go down as a bigger joke in the HW division.

Stank the place out against Klitschko after talking all the sh** in the world and then blamed his loss on his little toe, then faced a couple of bums and got retired by Bellew.

Say what you want about Wilder but he was a 5yr unbeaten champion in the division, even if the vast majority of his opposition was sub-par.

Haye was a CW ,hardly even comparable ,he’s actually a success story bc not many come up and have a good career at top level . You credited Wilder because he defeated Ortiz who didn’t defeat any top guy but you discredit Haye for a Klitschko loss ?


Wilders not a bum you call him that so I’m not even sure where this is going ?

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If Wilder KO's Fury we're in for a fourth I reckon.

The question is..... If Wilder won should he take the immediate rematch. I know he would be should he?

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Haye was a CW ,hardly even comparable ,he’s actually a success story bc not many come up and have a good career at top level . You credited Wilder because he defeated Ortiz who didn’t defeat any top guy but you discredit Haye for a Klitschko loss ?


Wilders not a bum you call him that so I’m not even sure where this is going ?

I just took issue with you saying that Wilder would retire as the biggest joke in boxing if he lost to Fury a second time. I disagree, there's been plenty of bigger jokes in the sport. Khan, Haye, the list goes on. There's no shame in losing to an elite, potentially ATG fighter in Fury.

Haye didn't even try to win against Klitschko, he literally wore a t-shirt with the brothers decapitated heads on it during the build up, then shat himself and ran away all night to avoid losing via KO. It was a pathetic performance, at least Wilder tried to go out on his shield.

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Ah.. the new age kid mentality... I feel sorry for them.

Losing 3 fights in a row is hardly a kid anything. Ha