Was De La Hoya Really That Skilled?

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  • Lonelystoner
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    #21
    People give passes to boxers with bad technique and bad fundamentals unless your name is Deontay Wilder.

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    • ShoulderRoll1
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      #22
      This forum keeps on getting funnier by the day. Is Oscar skilled he asked

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      • Lomadeaux
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        #23
        Anyone who says ODLH wasn’t skilled is a complete moron.

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        • hectari
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          #24
          Originally posted by KingHippo
          I'm not going to lie, I'm just a few years into this, but was De La Hoya really that skilled? I'm reading those Lopez comments about Garcia, and to me, he seems much better technically than De La Hoya (yes, I know about the jab) who looked very sloppy at times with square stances and wild ineffective flurries.

          I feel like Garcia is so much more polished, educated, efficient, and has better mechanics. Is this nostalgia, or is there some Oscar magic in there I'm missing?
          Bro if you think Ryan Garcia is more technically skilled than prime Oscr de la hoya than something is wrong with your eyes, get them checked brother. Ryan has Power but he is very flawed, If you put a 135 oscar against a 135 Ryan, Oscar would merk him in 3 or 4 rounds.

          Oscar was one of the sharpest boxer punchers, dude was crispy, had his hands up, had a whip counter left hook, good stiff jab, he was on his toes, the Golden boy was a top amateur and Olympic gold medalist as well.

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          • ShoulderRoll
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            #25
            Originally posted by IronDanHamza
            Not particularly
            You don't think Oscar was particularly skilled?

            Top amateur and Olympic gold medalist who was never really out of his element against any of the great fighters he faced?*



            *(well, except Pacquiao but he was weight drained for that one.)

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            • IronDanHamza
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              #26
              Originally posted by ShoulderRoll
              You don't think Oscar was particularly skilled?

              Top amateur and Olympic gold medalist who was never really out of his element against any of the great fighters he faced?*



              *(well, except Pacquiao but he was weight drained for that one.)
              Not particuarly.

              Definitely had a style that suited the amateurs so can see why he won his gold.

              Obviously a talented and skilled fighter but no I wouldn’t consider him overly skilled.

              One handed, not overly versatile, very hard puncher with fast hands and a great chin but I don’t see a guy with great skills.

              Not saying Oscar wasn’t elite he obviously was.

              And yeah he never looked out of his depth against pretty much anyone but he also never really seperated himself from the top guys either. Well, most of the time.

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              • BoloShot
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                #27
                He was very reliant on his left hand earlier on in his career but he managed to make his right very dangerous later on. He constantly improved, his combination punching ability was fantastic and he had a great jab and left hook. He moved well but could also **** on the inside if needed. Very complete fighter, had a great chin and speed in every department too. He has one of the best resumés ever and could hang with the best. He beat legends in their prime (some controversial, granted) and won titles in six weight classes. Unprecedented levels of greatness.

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                • BoloShot
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                  #28
                  Originally posted by Dip_Slide
                  Olympic gold medalist, tremendous talent and skills, 10 time world champion, was never a slugger or a face first brawler. Hung in there, skillwise, with the best of them like Whitaker, Hopkins, Mosley and Mayweather. Totally outclasse Trinidad imo. Never outclassed except by Pacquiao because he was nothing but a corpse that night. No non skilled fighters accomplish any of that.

                  Ryan still has a very long way to go to be put in the same sentence. We still have to see him at the top level before we make any judgments about him.
                  Considering I'm yet to see Ryan cover his chin when throwing hooks, imma wager he gets his clock cleaned soon enough.

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                  • SweetPbfAli
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                    #29
                    Originally posted by BoloShot
                    Considering I'm yet to see Ryan cover his chin when throwing hooks, imma wager he gets his clock cleaned soon enough.
                    That's the part that concerns me about him. He leaves that chin in the air just asking for trouble. Also doesn't move his head, change levels and is pretty damn stiff.

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                    • stealthradon
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                      #30
                      OLDH made himself into a legacy, a legacy of corruption in boxing.

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