Why was there a 22 foot ring for Joshua vs Ruiz II?

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  • ShoulderRoll
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    #101
    Originally posted by SUBZER0ED
    Ruiz apparently signed off on it. The guy had no plan, except to go in and try to do the same thing he did the first time (his words). On top of that, he came in fatter than ever, so he obviously didn't want it bad enough. How someone puts themselves in a contest which requires physical fitness, yet shows up absolutely unfit is puzzling. The ring size is not why he lost that fight.
    I don't think Ruiz had much choice. Even though he won the first fight he had very little leverage on his purse or the fight location.

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      #102
      Originally posted by ShoulderRoll
      Coincidence or deliberate A-side tactics?

      And why aren't all rings the same standard size?
      - -U so fathaid?

      And fat!

      Rings, purses, venues always been negotiable.

      What grade U in?

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      • SUBZER0ED
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        #103
        Originally posted by ShoulderRoll
        I don't think Ruiz had much choice. Even though he won the first fight he had very little leverage on his purse or the fight location.
        But he did have absolute control of the type of shape he was in for the fight.

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          #104
          Originally posted by SUBZER0ED
          But he did have absolute control of the type of shape he was in for the fight.
          I don't deny that part.

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            #105
            Originally posted by ShoulderRoll
            I don't think Ruiz had much choice. Even though he won the first fight he had very little leverage on his purse or the fight location.
            I'm no expert on boxing negotiations but how was this possible? He had all the belts and Joshua didn't. How could he not just refuse to fight in an oversized ring in the middle of the desert?

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              #106
              Originally posted by KingOfGlory
              I'm no expert on boxing negotiations but how was this possible? He had all the belts and Joshua didn't. How could he not just refuse to fight in an oversized ring in the middle of the desert?
              Hearn must have have put a lot of stipulations into the rematch clause that Ruiz had to accept in order to get the first fight.

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                #107
                Originally posted by ShoulderRoll
                Hearn must have have put a lot of stipulations into the rematch clause that Ruiz had to accept in order to get the first fight.
                I see. The weight issue was completely on him but it's still a shame. Ruiz has absolutely no leverage to ever get his rematch against the "champion" even though he deserves it.

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                • Boxfan83
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                  #108
                  Even as a Ruiz fan, I dont blame the Ring.

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                    #109
                    Originally posted by KingOfGlory
                    I see. The weight issue was completely on him but it's still a shame. Ruiz has absolutely no leverage to ever get his rematch against the "champion" even though he deserves it.
                    That's not entirely true actually. Ruiz fought Joshua voluntarily. Contracts are not the jurisdiction of bodies or commissions but rather courts, and the courts do not force fights or strip titles they just make the contract breacher pay for the money that was lost by breaking the contract.

                    So, Ruiz had that. He didn't have to fight Joshua or he'd lose his belts, he had to fight Joshua or he'd be forced to pay Joshua until he'd earned enough to equal what Josh would have made in the rematch.

                    Litigation being expensive and whatnot if Ruiz had a real sticking point, which he did, he'd get it, which he did. He wanted paid more, he got paid more, he wasn't concerned about the ring size because he wasn't concerned about winning.

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                      #110
                      Well that's boxing. Someone has to make these choices and the A Side will always have the upper hand.

                      Should Joshua have fought a near 300 lb, shorter guy in a phone booth? Absolutely not. That would give Ruiz an advantage.

                      If you want to be the one who makes those choices, all you have to do is consistently win big fights, win and defend belts and be a global megastar. Easy isn't it?

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