Should Refs Just Say Punch and Get Out Instead of Separating Fighters?

Collapse
Collapse
  • Time
  • Show
Clear All
new posts
  • _Rexy_
    Undisputed Champion
    Franchise Champion - 20,000+ posts
    • Jan 2018
    • 27929
    • 6,140
    • 3,585
    • 358,040

    #11
    Sometimes you can't punch out of it. If there's a free arm, I'd expect them to punch out. If it's a full on grapple/hang on for dear life I'd break it up.

    Comment

    • EDDIE SPERM
      Undisputed Champion
      Platinum Champion - 1,000-5,000 posts
      • Aug 2019
      • 1077
      • 81
      • 163
      • 78,383

      #12
      Originally posted by Tony Trick-Pony
      I don't see many referees do this anymore. I think they need to get back to this. We need officiating in the ring obviously but over-officiating really can ruin a fight. I'd prefer it if they just said, "Punch and get out." It would make for better fights and we would have more inside fighting which the sport badly needs in my opinion. Thoughts?
      They should gtfo & let boxers fight! It would help boxing skyrocket!

      Comment

      • SplitSecond
        Undisputed Champion
        Franchise Champion - 20,000+ posts
        • Nov 2009
        • 23151
        • 1,715
        • 1,187
        • 85,044

        #13
        Just be more strict with holding and take points quicker. Too many times a ref lets a clinchfest occur and a point maybe gets taken by rd 11 or 12. It’s a joke but we all know the game is rigged.

        Comment

        • Tony Trick-Pony
          Banned
          Unified Champion - 10,00-20,000 posts
          • Feb 2014
          • 16950
          • 1,408
          • 3,121
          • 139,355

          #14
          Originally posted by SplitSecond
          Just be more strict with holding and take points quicker. Too many times a ref lets a clinchfest occur and a point maybe gets taken by rd 11 or 12. It’s a joke but we all know the game is rigged.
          Yeah, very few points ever get taken. Definitely not enough to deter holding at all.

          Comment

          • MulaKO
            Zero F@cks Given
            Franchise Champion - 20,000+ posts
            • Oct 2007
            • 26896
            • 6,762
            • 6,070
            • 221,421

            #15
            I used enjoy when the ref would pull the fighters arm out from his opponent
            At the same time letting them fight out of the clinch
            Honestly the only way to stop this clinching bullchit is for the ref to take away a point after warning that fighter
            Today the refs jump in the minute the guys got his head on his opponents chest or shoulder
            It’s sad because some of the best boxing comes from that inside fighting
            Refs aren’t ****** , but obviously something is going down
            The inside game of boxing is deliberately disappearing cause of the refs
            It’s a big loss to the sport and to the entertainment it brings

            Comment

            • Tony Trick-Pony
              Banned
              Unified Champion - 10,00-20,000 posts
              • Feb 2014
              • 16950
              • 1,408
              • 3,121
              • 139,355

              #16
              Originally posted by MulaKO
              I used enjoy when the ref would pull the fighters arm out from his opponent
              At the same time letting them fight out of the clinch
              Honestly the only way to stop this clinching bullchit is for the ref to take away a point after warning that fighter
              Today the refs jump in the minute the guys got his head on his opponents chest or shoulder
              It’s sad because some of the best boxing comes from that inside fighting
              Refs aren’t ****** , but obviously something is going down
              The inside game of boxing is deliberately disappearing cause of the refs
              It’s a big loss to the sport and to the entertainment it brings
              It is a huge loss. I really miss seeing good inside fights. I think they're way more entertaining. Maybe some day things will change...

              Comment

              • Blond Beast
                Undisputed Champion
                Platinum Champion - 1,000-5,000 posts
                • Jan 2007
                • 2848
                • 318
                • 89
                • 51,333

                #17
                Originally posted by _Rexy_
                Sometimes you can't punch out of it. If there's a free arm, I'd expect them to punch out. If it's a full on grapple/hang on for dear life I'd break it up.
                Exactly. Every fight is different. The goal for the ref is to keep the action going as best as possible. Sometimes it’s just one fighter that wants to clinch. The other fighter can’t punch to get out if his opponent just wants to wrap him up. It could take forever to break free and thats what the opponent wants. Sometimes both fighters are willing just to tangle up and left to their own devices they might just stay that way. A ref has to try and set a precedent with his commands. If one fighter keeps promoting the grapple without punches then the ref should pick the option that suits the other guy best. The ref should try and steer the fight in a way which promotes the most actual fighting. Grappling is part of it. Takes time to separate them. But a ref who is on it in a way that promotes more actual fighting is doing right by us fans. Follow the refs instructions. Take a point if u have to.

                Comment

                • MulaKO
                  Zero F@cks Given
                  Franchise Champion - 20,000+ posts
                  • Oct 2007
                  • 26896
                  • 6,762
                  • 6,070
                  • 221,421

                  #18
                  Originally posted by Tony Trick-Pony
                  It is a huge loss. I really miss seeing good inside fights. I think they're way more entertaining. Maybe some day things will change...
                  It’s an essential part of the sport

                  Comment

                  • BoloShot
                    Undisputed Champion
                    Platinum Champion - 1,000-5,000 posts
                    • May 2019
                    • 2786
                    • 119
                    • 391
                    • 56,635

                    #19
                    Originally posted by sugarsmosley
                    if the two fighters are not completely tangled up, or one guy is getting pushed down then ideally yes the ref should call for them to punch out.

                    refs are human tho, and therefore not perfectly consistent. I'll never forget kenny B's performance in the maidana floyd fight, seperating the two before they even touched each other lol.
                    That was simply a result of corruption rather than ineptitude.

                    Comment

                    • BoloShot
                      Undisputed Champion
                      Platinum Champion - 1,000-5,000 posts
                      • May 2019
                      • 2786
                      • 119
                      • 391
                      • 56,635

                      #20
                      Well if no one is tied up pushed down then the fight should go ahead of course. Can't allow for holding or dirty tactics on the inside like headbutts or elbows though. Then fighters should absolutely be separated by the ref.

                      Comment

                      Working...
                      TOP