2017 Andre Ward vs Bivol and Beterbiev who wins and why

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  • aboutfkntime
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    #51
    Originally posted by BoloShot
    Kovalev was absolutely destroyed by Beterbiev more than once in the amateurs and he considered him to be the bane of his existence there. Kovalev didn't want to fight him and I don't know many people who'd have picked him to beat Beterbiev at that stage.



    what a load of e-shlt

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      #52
      Originally posted by BoloShot
      Weird he'd have a half asses training camp but I guess Kov appeared more than shot to him having gone down so easily to his one solid attack in their first fight.

      I think that was exactly it
      Also you gotta remember he was the WBC mando to Stevenson but was always taking step aside money
      So maybe fame got to him , if you wanna call it fame lol
      But I also believe Kovi is done , that was his second wind and that’s it , no matter what Buddy says


      Originally posted by aboutfkntime
      nobody got worked up

      imo... the proven Ward, beats the unproven Bivol/Beterbiev... that is all

      there is nothing to indicate otherwise

      Cool , just seemed like you were getting overheated

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        #53
        Originally posted by MulaKO
        I think that was exactly it
        Also you gotta remember he was the WBC mando to Stevenson but was always taking step aside money
        So maybe fame got to him , if you wanna call it fame lol
        But I also believe Kovi is done , that was his second wind and that’s it , no matter what Buddy says





        Cool , just seemed like you were getting overheated
        Oh yeah Kov showed in the Yarde fight that he was both still a class above being shot to bits but definitely done at the elite level.

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          #54
          Originally posted by BoloShot
          Oh yeah Kov showed in the Yarde fight that he was both still a class above being shot to bits but definitely done at the elite level.
          If he sticks around it’ll be cause he’s got lawyer fees
          He’ll be rendered to gatekeeper although a better than average one

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            #55
            Originally posted by MulaKO
            If he sticks around it’ll be cause he’s got lawyer fees
            He’ll be rendered to gatekeeper although a better than average one
            He'll have another title fight I reckon, get blitzed, then call it a day. Of course he has that fight with Sullivan Barrera organised at a 180lbs catch-weight, a fight he could very well lose before he even gets that shot.

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              #56
              Originally posted by BoloShot
              He'll have another title fight I reckon, get blitzed, then call it a day. Of course he has that fight with Sullivan Barrera organised at a 180lbs catch-weight, a fight he could very well lose before he even gets that shot.

              If he gets another title shot , it’ll be cause someone wants his name on their mantle like Canelo did
              Nothing more , nothing less

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                #57
                Originally posted by MulaKO
                If he gets another title shot , it’ll be cause someone wants his name on their mantle like Canelo did
                Nothing more , nothing less
                Agreed he's nothing more than a name to add to the resumé.

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                  #58
                  Originally posted by tritium_arma
                  The same Kovalev who got knocked out by Eleider and almost knocked out by Yarde?
                  Kovalev had never been seriously hurt until he fought ward


                  You don't have to be a rocket scientist to see since his left is used often he will throw Jabs from too close


                  Makes you vulnerable to slip 2s and and over hand rights


                  Everytime he got hurt its shots like that

                  Once he lost 2 In a row given his age he wasnt the same fighter fighting ward twice after punch resistance

                  Imo ward vs kov was the most competitive fight between 2 clear p4p guys. It took something out of both guys. That's why one retired and the others punch resistance stamina reflexes and legs deteriorated the last 2 years


                  Prime kov even the 2 versions that fought kov with all his confidence power willingness to knockout you out drills those guys


                  Kov was on an absolute tear for like 5 years at the world level. He earned being called the crusher

                  Bivol and beterbiev have only fought 3 or less top ten guys

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                    #59
                    Those are better match ups for Ward then Kovalev.

                    Kovalev's long jab and boxing skills gave Ward more problems stylistically then Bivol or Beterbiev could.

                    Ward too tricky and skillful for both, just superior IQ and finds a way to win.

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                      #60
                      Andre Ward is too good

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