2017 Andre Ward vs Bivol and Beterbiev who wins and why

[therealpugilist]

wish we could have gotten to see these fights, especially the Beterbiev fights...i think hed have beat both with Bivol being a closer fight.....difference will be Ward's physical strength, ability to fight all styles and underrated power.

[ShaneMosleySr]

I think Bivol beats him and Beterbiev is a toss up.

[therealpugilist]

I think Bivol beats him and Beterbiev is a toss up.

how and why? Bivol hasnt shown me anything or beat anyone that jumps out for me to think he'd trouble Ward...what is it that you see?

[Madison Boxing]

Beats bivol but loses to beterbiev

[therealpugilist]

Beats bivol but loses to beterbiev

can i get a how and why folks

beterbiev is pretty raw as far as technique and outside of power is a well schooled fighter but hasnt beat a lot of top competition


only way he beats ward in my eyes is a shock ko.

[ShaneMosleySr]

Bivol has won every second of every fight he’s had and some of those wins look great now.

I think he’s one of the best technical boxers on the planet and bigger than Ward. I think he wins a decision because of that.

how and why? Bivol hasnt shown me anything or beat anyone that jumps out for me to think he'd trouble Ward...what is it that you see?

[BoloShot]

Bivol is extremely well rounded and cerebral in the ring. He can and would punish Ward at will I believe. Ward will make it scrappy as he always does but Bivol is too well rounded a boxer in my book. I think he'd have lost to Beterbiev too, Beterbiev isn't just a basic mauling plodder like is being portrayed here. He's very technically sound, is a vicious grappler on the inside who outmuscles and bullies guys there. There's no need to espouse too much about his power, it's clear how dangerous he is. Ward would think he can do his thing of roughing Beterbiev on the inside but he'd be going against a guy who I think is better equipped than him for that style. Of the two Bivol is more likely to lose in my book, don't think he's too durable so might be able to be taken out on the inside if Ward keeps him there.

[therealpugilist]

Bivol has won every second of every fight he’s had and some of those wins look great now.

I think he’s one of the best technical boxers on the planet and bigger than Ward. I think he wins a decision because of that.

bivol is a very good solid guy.....he will rack in more soon.

[therealpugilist]

Bivol is extremely well rounded and cerebral in the ring. He can and would punish Ward at will I believe. Ward will make it scrappy as he always does but Bivol is too well rounded a boxer in my book. I think he'd have lost to Beterbiev too, Beterbiev isn't just a basic mauling plodder like is being portrayed here. He's very technically sound, is a vicious grappler on the inside who outmuscles and bullies guys there. There's no need to espouse too much about his power, it's clear how dangerous he is. Ward would think he can do his thing of roughing Beterbiev on the inside but he'd be going against a guy who I think is better equipped than him for that style.

ward wouldnt be a near 40 year old pascal and had the second highest difference of connect percentage to his opponents in his era


cant see him standing there to let bivol tee off also his defense is good inside outside and lateral

pivol is well schooled but he hasnt been in their with someone with the ring IQ of ward for me to think he'd dominate the man....a man who was lineal at 168 and won title at 175 also shown the ability to adapt to any style

i think ward adjusts quicker which will be the deciding factor he is a more versatile fighter than both of them but great assessment

[BoloShot]

ward wouldnt be a near 40 year old pascal and had the second highest difference of connect percentage to his opponents in his era


cant see him standing there to let bivol tee off also his defense is good inside outside and lateral

pivol is well schooled but he hasnt been in their with someone with the ring IQ of ward for me to think he'd dominate the man....a man who was lineal at 168 and won title at 175 also shown the ability to adapt to any style

i think ward adjusts quicker which will be the deciding factor he is a more versatile fighter than both of them but great assessment

Fair enough, Ward was good at adjusting, I guess Bivol has outlcassed people so badly that he's never had to adjust and he has quite a resumé in that time too, he's knocking on the door to the top 10 p4p if he takes on a Badou Jack followed by any of Kovalev, Gvozdyk and Zurdo. Still think Bivol could do an even better job of keeping Ward off him than vice versa is how I see it really.