Comments Thread For: Atlas: Ruiz, In Better Shape, Would Have Still Lost To Joshua

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  • factsarenice
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    #21
    Andy Ruiz is a heavyweight Carlos Baldomir, a one hit wonder that will fade into obscurity.

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    • Blond Beast
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      #22
      Originally posted by Madison boxing
      It was a masterclass performance from Joshua In a fight that many thought he'd lose. Unfortunately a lot of people were upset he didn't stand in the middle of the ring with his chin in the air to allow ruiz to hit him
      Right. Joshua adapted to a style that made sense after the first fight. it wasent very exciting of course. If he hurt Ruiz I don’t think he’d jump on him at all. Don’t blame him. Course if he got a stoppage that would have earned him huge props. I give credit to AJ for dropping Ruiz clean in the first fight and then going after him. It was exciting. He hit Ruiz with sum great shots. It just didn’t work out. Sadly he might avoid going after anyone like that ever again.

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      • Corelone
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        #23
        Why is it when an American, or anybody else that goes to the UK and loses, disappears into obscurity, but they can come to America, lose, get KOd, run out of Dodge, and it's like it never happened. Smith, Khan, Campbell, AJ, still have huge followings, even if they haven't avenged squat in America.

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        • lion33lit
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          #24
          Originally posted by factsarenice
          "Ruiz can still be successful without him." Obviously 15 million wasn't enough motivation to be successful. Ruiz is done.
          Maybe, “Ruiz is done.” Because I don’t know what’s gonna motivate him to cut all that fatty weight and stay in the gym. He partied for months after he accosted AJ, so his affection might now be directed towards club promotion and catering..lol..I just don’t see the hyper attention seeker Atlas motivating Ruiz any more than Ruiz’s homeboy up the block. Maybe if the powers that be can somehow get a burrito to circle a track while Ruiz chases it? Other than that, you may be right. Ruiz might be done.

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          • lion33lit
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            #25
            Originally posted by factsarenice
            Andy Ruiz is a heavyweight Carlos Baldomir, a one hit wonder that will fade into obscurity.
            Wow, 15mil! That’s crazy! He probably bought every dish that Cali & Mexico had to offer.

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            • Corelone
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              #26
              Originally posted by James Hunt
              Oh, now it's the ring size?! That's ***ing brilliant! Are you sure it wasn't ........"the glove"?
              If he didn't need it, then why did he have it?

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              • crisantonio917
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                #27
                Especially with Teddy training him, he surely would have lost..

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                • Mindgames
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                  #28
                  It's always the same thing with certain people on here. It's all, "we dont want excuses" when someone from the UK takes a loss, but when they win the other guy has a list of excuses and they help add to them. As for Ruiz, how could he not have know AJ was going to box him from the outside in the rematch? Everyone else did.

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                  • Dasmius Shinobi
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                    #29
                    Teddy Atlas always like to lit fire in the ÂŠŠ of fighters.

                    Sorry, but I have to agree to Teddy Atlas on this one and there is not debate against him on this one. The only thing is, the timing was off when Teddy Atlas said these things and sound like a temper tantrum.

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                    • Dasmius Shinobi
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                      #30
                      Originally posted by DKH530
                      The Joshua-Ruiz drama was two strange fights that leave me confused. Joshua looked spooked in Fight One, Ruiz had the night of his life, Joshua said nothing about what was going on with him. Fight Two, with Joshua coming out of a long hibernation of training, he boxed, moved a bit, stayed away without running, and won a landslide without landing a significant punch. Weight on Ruiz? Skill or fear from Joshua? Who knows? Remember Roy Jones Jr. after the Montel Griffin DQ? Or Antonio Tarver after what he believed was a robbery against Roy Jones Jr.? That's what desire looks like after a loss. AJ is a great human being, a thoughtful, authentic, respectful dude. He didn't even get after Jarrell Miller when the out-of-line loudmouth tested positive for PEDs. AJ still speaks well of Dillian Whyte, who insults AJ in the worst ways every time the subject comes up. He's too cerebral, too much in his head to beat a madman like Tyson Fury; he'd go down from a Wilder right hand and Dillian Whyte would take him out at this point. AJ's big moment was against Klitschko -- now he's a wealthy and popular man who will have a great career post-boxing if he doesn't hang on too long and end up in an embarrassing verbal battle with Fury, Wilder and Whyte.

                      Green Karma Positive: The best post and is the first one, there is not debate on this one. Welcome to Boxing Scene.

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