Comments Thread For: Jacobs: Canelo Was Trickier, But Triple-G Fight Was Probably Tougher
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Dude, I'm a Canelo fan and a Dereyvanchenko fan.
But "At the end of the day", who's hand was raised against Derevyanchenko?
Golovkin.
"At the end of the day", who's hand was raised against Jacobs?
Golovkin.
As far as the first Carnelo fight...you already know what really happened. Adelaide Byrd saved Carnelo from another loss. Because her card should have matched Dave Moretti.Comment
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Jacobs wasn’t elite and he wasn’t the second best middleweight on the planet. Why? Well because you say so and because it wasn’t against Canelo.
165 is NORTH of 160. You may not know that casual. You should learn the sport instead of falling for the Canelo fairytale weight classes. 🤪🤪
I’ve never said GGG was killer, you said this 2 years later.
The face of boxing couldn’t beat GGG on Clenbuterol and sc****d, SC****D past the old flat footed 37 year old “nobody” remember? That’s elite for you though!
In truth, he lost to Lara, Mayweather and GGG 1.
Canelo has never had a decisive win against any elite in their prime, NOT ONE!
Here we go casual:
Matthew Hatton: 4 loses (first title win; forget his precious silver titles!)
Ryan Rhodes: 4 loses
Alfonso Gomez: 4 loses
Kermit Cintron: 4 loses
Shane Mosley: 7 loses (wayyyyy past his prime)
Josesito Lopez: 4 loses and a Junior welterweight
Austin Trout: beat a past his prime Cotto who had 3 losses already
Floyd Mayweather: (let’s pretend you don’t know how thoroughly embarrassed your “elite” fighter got)
Alfredo Ángulo: 3 losses
Erislandy Lara: well you know Stevie Wonder also scored it a robbery
James Kirkland: yeah the one who got knocked out by 6 losses Ishida
Miguel Cotto: 4 losses and way past his prime.
Amir Khan: I mean, let’s not take it there. Just another lower weight bum he beat
Liam Smith: Who????
Julio Cesar Chavez Jr: this is making me nauseous.
GGG: Popped positive for Clenbuterol and STILL couldn’t beat this “bum”
GGG2: barely sc****d by the 37 year old “bum”. Not impressive for an “elite” fighter.
Rocky Fielding: not even the true WBA champion
Daniel Jacobs: Yeah the one already beat by GGG who gave him a harder fight
Sergey Kovalev: the 36 year old who fought Canelo 9 weeks after going life and death with Yarde. Wayyyy past his prime
So for fphucks sake casual, you need to stop it and quit pretending he’s beaten ANYONE better than the old fphuck GGG. Mark my words. He will NEVER fight and beat Andrade (in his prime), Charlo (in his prime), instead he’ll fight the other cheater in Saunders. Forget Benavidez at 168 and Beterbiev or Bivol at 175, also in their prime. Not a single fighter IN....HIS....PRIME 😂😂😂🤦🏻🤦🏻
NOBODY called Jacobs elite before Golovkin selected him, he was a HUGE underdog... but when Canelo fought Jacobs, everyone knew that he was at least the 2nd best middleweight on the planet
you casuals may not understand the landscape but insiders know
regarding Chavez... 165 is not middleweight son
you clowns said Golovkin was a killer LMAO... but he could not beat a short fat red kid who was coming up in weight
and in truth, he likely lost to Derevyanchenko
dude, the guy does not have 1 signature win on his resume
the myth is over... Golovkin was over-hyped, and he continually lied to his idiot fanbase... you just need to man up and accept the truthComment
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Jacobs wasn’t elite and he wasn’t the second best middleweight on the planet. Why? Well because you say so and because it wasn’t against Canelo.
165 is NORTH of 160. You may not know that casual. You should learn the sport instead of falling for the Canelo fairytale weight classes.
I’ve never said GGG was killer, you said this 2 years later.
The face of boxing couldn’t beat GGG on Clenbuterol and sc****d, SC****D past the old flat footed 37 year old “nobody” remember? That’s elite for you though!
In truth, he lost to Lara, Mayweather and GGG 1.
Canelo has never had a decisive win against any elite in their prime, NOT ONE!
Here we go casual:
Matthew Hatton: 4 loses (first title win; forget his precious silver titles!)
Ryan Rhodes: 4 loses
Alfonso Gomez: 4 loses
Kermit Cintron: 4 loses
Shane Mosley: 7 loses (wayyyyy past his prime)
Josesito Lopez: 4 loses and a Junior welterweight
Austin Trout: beat a past his prime Cotto who had 3 losses already
Floyd Mayweather: (let’s pretend you don’t know how thoroughly embarrassed your “elite” fighter got)
Alfredo Ángulo: 3 losses
Erislandy Lara: well you know Stevie Wonder also scored it a robbery
James Kirkland: yeah the one who got knocked out by 6 losses Ishida
Miguel Cotto: 4 losses and way past his prime.
Amir Khan: I mean, let’s not take it there. Just another lower weight bum he beat
Liam Smith: Who????
Julio Cesar Chavez Jr: this is making me nauseous.
GGG: Popped positive for Clenbuterol and STILL couldn’t beat this “bum”
GGG2: barely sc****d by the 37 year old “bum”. Not impressive for an “elite” fighter.
Rocky Fielding: not even the true WBA champion
Daniel Jacobs: Yeah the one already beat by GGG who gave him a harder fight
Sergey Kovalev: the 36 year old who fought Canelo 9 weeks after going life and death with Yarde. Wayyyy past his prime
So for fphucks sake casual, you need to stop it and quit pretending he’s beaten ANYONE better than the old fphuck GGG. Mark my words. He will NEVER fight and beat Andrade (in his prime), Charlo (in his prime), instead he’ll fight the other cheater in Saunders. Forget Benavidez at 168 and Beterbiev or Bivol at 175, also in their prime. Not a single fighter IN....HIS....PRIME
Golovkin is about to retire... with NO career-defining fight
he does not have 1 signature win
not one
and it gets worse, Hypekin ducked EVERY possible threat...
1) he made a bunch of silly excuses to avoid Sergio Mora in a showcase on HBO, preferring instead to fight a NO-HOPER in Monaco on free-TV
Mora was an ex-champ who had clearly faded, which is the ideal opponent for a young fighter attempting to establish himself on the world-stage..... boxing has always worked that way.....
NOT saying that Golovkin could not have beaten Mora, just that the Latin Snake is a known mover/spoiler who is notoriously difficult to look good against..... and they were not willing to risk failing to put Mora away, looking bad in the process, or..... worse
when I heard Loeffler stuttering and stammering his way through half-a-dozen silly excuses, I knew what was up..... that was ridiculous.....
and don't try to spin me any bullshlt kid... because insisting that someone is irrelevant, and not a draw..... only works if you then fight someone relevant who IS a draw..... not an unknown NO-HOPER on free TV who is WORSE
missing opportunities like that, and with guys like Cotto..... is why Golovkin only has 97k fans..... he needed those type of fights
2) they did the exact same thing to Lara and Ward, who are both also known mover/spoilers who are notoriously difficult to look good against.....
Lara would have been Golovkin's best opponent to date at that point..... and once again, insisting that someone is irrelevant, and not a draw..... only works if you fight someone relevant who IS a draw..... not guys like Willie Monroe, Wade, Brook, etc.....
3) Ward..... they promised to fight Ward at 168..... a) they killed the fight in June 2015 by demanding a catchweight they knew would kill the fight..... b) in September 2015 they refused that fight in 36 minutes flat
4) the superstar Cotto, should have been the ultimate goal of every fighter from 140-160..... at that point in time, Cotto was the very best option, because May/Pac were totally unrealistic and never going to happen
Mr " anyone from 154-168 " totally refusing to negotiate on weight with the little old faded SUPERSTAR Miguel Cotto..... is the 2nd most bizarre occurrence within boxing that I have witnessed within the last decade
I cannot believe how little was spoken about that situation, both from the media and from the fans..... totally bizarre..... every other fighter from 140-160 would have cut off one of his fingers for that fight, and yet Golovkin would not so much as lift his little finger to make that fight, totally refusing to drop a single pound to fight the 153lb superstar
then a few months after refusing to negotiate on weight with Cotto and Canelo..... Golovkin threw up his hands in frustration and claimed that he was willing and able to fight at 154 but nobody would step up..... WTF???
those are the exact type of fights that Golovkin should have taken
5) they specifically promised to fight Canelo at 154..... but as above, when shht got real they tucked tail and ran from that fight..... and just like above, 6 months after refusing to negotiate on weight with Cotto and Canelo, Golovkin threw up his hands in frustration and claimed that he was willing and able to fight at 154, but nobody would step up.....
6) Derevyanchenko - and Golovkin got stripped
7) Saunders..... why the fcuk would Golovkin select a total NO-HOPER in Vanes, when Saunders was running around with his "dream"..... calling him Pvssy-Borat.,.... and offering to fight him in June???
a unification > a mando, so Golovkin would not have been stripped for refusing to fight Derevyanchenko..... instead, Golovkin avoided TWO threats, selected an inactive JMW, and got stripped for his troubles in the process.....
the very second that Saunders said he was available, there was no other fight to make..... Munguia, Spike, and Vanes..... should never have been mentioned
..... come on, that is the 3rd most bizarre situation within the sport of boxing that I have ever witnessed..... two of those situations being created by Golovkin
8) Charlo - they said that fight " made no sense "
9) Andrade - they said that fight " made no sense "
if you think all of that happened by coincidence, you are a fkn dreamer
stop licking Golovkin's sack and then expecting old school fans to applaud you for it..... MANY established journalists have said the exact same thing..... which is why you should have smartened upComment
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MANY established journalists also saw Canelo lose except of course, a casual pow pow wearing Canelo groupie like yourself. You know, ranting a 3 page comment doesn’t graduate you from casual status, just makes you an even more bonafide casual. And for the record, Cotto AND Canelo refused to fight the bum GGG when both had the WBC middleweight title. Don’t forget Canelo dumped the belt and went back to his “155” pound weight deification! That would be too true for you and would bruise your weak ego to regurgitate on NSB. 😂😂😂
Ignoring that, his padded record, his never unifying ANY division, his never beating an elite fighter in their prime, his relinquishing a belt for fear of fighting GGG at 160 when he won the belt only to pop for Clenbuterol use and still not being able to defeat that told fphuck, his lack of respect from true Mexican greats like Barrera, Morales, Chavez Sr, and a list of other greats who have reminded you and I how Canelo is nowhere near as great, most definitely makes you Canelo’s cuckold. It burns you like your ********* from ‘97 that you simply have no leg to stand on. I have to tell you, if there’s one thing you are good at is taking a pounding son. I also wouldn’t expect any less from a Canelo groupie. 👉👌🌈
Remind us again when Canelo unifies or breaks any record for most defenses in ANY weight division...😂😂😂😂
Golovkin is about to retire... with NO career-defining fight
he does not have 1 signature win
not one
and it gets worse, Hypekin ducked EVERY possible threat...
1) he made a bunch of silly excuses to avoid Sergio Mora in a showcase on HBO, preferring instead to fight a NO-HOPER in Monaco on free-TV
Mora was an ex-champ who had clearly faded, which is the ideal opponent for a young fighter attempting to establish himself on the world-stage..... boxing has always worked that way.....
NOT saying that Golovkin could not have beaten Mora, just that the Latin Snake is a known mover/spoiler who is notoriously difficult to look good against..... and they were not willing to risk failing to put Mora away, looking bad in the process, or..... worse
when I heard Loeffler stuttering and stammering his way through half-a-dozen silly excuses, I knew what was up..... that was ridiculous.....
and don't try to spin me any bullshlt kid... because insisting that someone is irrelevant, and not a draw..... only works if you then fight someone relevant who IS a draw..... not an unknown NO-HOPER on free TV who is WORSE
missing opportunities like that, and with guys like Cotto..... is why Golovkin only has 97k fans..... he needed those type of fights
2) they did the exact same thing to Lara and Ward, who are both also known mover/spoilers who are notoriously difficult to look good against.....
Lara would have been Golovkin's best opponent to date at that point..... and once again, insisting that someone is irrelevant, and not a draw..... only works if you fight someone relevant who IS a draw..... not guys like Willie Monroe, Wade, Brook, etc.....
3) Ward..... they promised to fight Ward at 168..... a) they killed the fight in June 2015 by demanding a catchweight they knew would kill the fight..... b) in September 2015 they refused that fight in 36 minutes flat
4) the superstar Cotto, should have been the ultimate goal of every fighter from 140-160..... at that point in time, Cotto was the very best option, because May/Pac were totally unrealistic and never going to happen
Mr " anyone from 154-168 " totally refusing to negotiate on weight with the little old faded SUPERSTAR Miguel Cotto..... is the 2nd most bizarre occurrence within boxing that I have witnessed within the last decade
I cannot believe how little was spoken about that situation, both from the media and from the fans..... totally bizarre..... every other fighter from 140-160 would have cut off one of his fingers for that fight, and yet Golovkin would not so much as lift his little finger to make that fight, totally refusing to drop a single pound to fight the 153lb superstar
then a few months after refusing to negotiate on weight with Cotto and Canelo..... Golovkin threw up his hands in frustration and claimed that he was willing and able to fight at 154 but nobody would step up..... WTF???
those are the exact type of fights that Golovkin should have taken
5) they specifically promised to fight Canelo at 154..... but as above, when shht got real they tucked tail and ran from that fight..... and just like above, 6 months after refusing to negotiate on weight with Cotto and Canelo, Golovkin threw up his hands in frustration and claimed that he was willing and able to fight at 154, but nobody would step up.....
6) Derevyanchenko - and Golovkin got stripped
7) Saunders..... why the fcuk would Golovkin select a total NO-HOPER in Vanes, when Saunders was running around with his "dream"..... calling him Pvssy-Borat.,.... and offering to fight him in June???
a unification > a mando, so Golovkin would not have been stripped for refusing to fight Derevyanchenko..... instead, Golovkin avoided TWO threats, selected an inactive JMW, and got stripped for his troubles in the process.....
the very second that Saunders said he was available, there was no other fight to make..... Munguia, Spike, and Vanes..... should never have been mentioned
..... come on, that is the 3rd most bizarre situation within the sport of boxing that I have ever witnessed..... two of those situations being created by Golovkin
8) Charlo - they said that fight " made no sense "
9) Andrade - they said that fight " made no sense "
if you think all of that happened by coincidence, you are a fkn dreamer
stop licking Golovkin's sack and then expecting old school fans to applaud you for it..... MANY established journalists have said the exact same thing..... which is why you should have smartened upComment
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LMAO Asian or Caucasian "journalists" w/ agendas who never fought in their life are biased idiots. Most boxers had Alvarez winning both fightsMANY established journalists also saw Canelo lose except of course, a casual pow pow wearing Canelo groupie like yourself. You know, ranting a 3 page comment doesn’t graduate you from casual status, just makes you an even more bonafide casual. And for the record, Cotto AND Canelo refused to fight the bum GGG when both had the WBC middleweight title. Don’t forget Canelo dumped the belt and went back to his “155” pound weight deification! That would be too true for you and would bruise your weak ego to regurgitate on NSB. ������
Ignoring that, his padded record, his never unifying ANY division, his never beating an elite fighter in their prime, his relinquishing a belt for fear of fighting GGG at 160 when he won the belt only to pop for Clenbuterol use and still not being able to defeat that told fphuck, his lack of respect from true Mexican greats like Barrera, Morales, Chavez Sr, and a list of other greats who have reminded you and I how Canelo is nowhere near as great, most definitely makes you Canelo’s cuckold. It burns you like your ********* from ‘97 that you simply have no leg to stand on. I have to tell you, if there’s one thing you are good at is taking a pounding son. I also wouldn’t expect any less from a Canelo groupie. ������
Remind us again when Canelo unifies or breaks any record for most defenses in ANY weight division...��������Comment
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