Can we say that Usyk is arguably the greatest cruiserweight ever

[Blond Beast]

Usyk and Holyfield are obviously the top 2 at CW.


Brits will argue Haye, but no.

I rewatched the Holy v Qawi fights. Was 190lbs back then and 15 rounders. Holy had only ever gone 8rounds before that. He looked exactly like Holy does. Qawi gets his credit too. Holy has a good enough chance against any man who ever lived. If people havent seen it, his fight vs Lionel Byram is great. He was only 177.5lbs. The graphic says it was a light heavyweight fight. But I don’t understand how that is possible with both guys over 175lbs. Toney v Jirov is a great cruiser fight also, at 190lbs I think. HWs like Marciano was almost always below 190lbs and 200lbs. How do these things factor in I wonder?

[_Rexy_]

I rewatched the Holy v Qawi fights. Was 190lbs back then and 15 rounders. Holy had only ever gone 8rounds before that. He looked exactly like Holy does. Qawi gets his credit too. Holy has a good enough chance against any man who ever lived. If people havent seen it, his fight vs Lionel Byram is great. He was only 177.5lbs. The graphic says it was a light heavyweight fight. But I don’t understand how that is possible with both guys over 175lbs. Toney v Jirov is a great cruiser fight also, at 190lbs I think. HWs like Marciano was almost always below 190lbs and 200lbs. How do these things factor in I wonder?

Some states will give some leeway on overages. Illinois will comp you one pound. Maybe he found a lax commission?

[_Rexy_]

You left out that Toney was a mile behind in that fight.

Was a hometown fight for Nunn. Having Nunn win all the rounds but 1 or 2 was not accurate.

[Ajvar]

Haye would beat Usyk outboxing him. Hollyfield would KO him.
1. Haye survived Klitschko, didn't he? And he had a toe, lol.
2. Hay had brighter IQ in the ring while Usyk just does what GREAT LOMACHENKO elder told him to do.
3. Usyk was outboxed many times: Bellew, Briedis... But only his great stamina and cardio helped him overturn the fight.
Had Hollyfield and Haye received tournament like Ali Cup, they would both win it.

[Blond Beast]

Some states will give some leeway on overages. Illinois will comp you one pound. Maybe he found a lax commission?

It was at Madison Square Garden. I just don’t know what to make of it. Nobody ever mentions Evander coming from light heavy. But at 177.5lbs I don’t see how any commission could sanction it as LH. Maybe the number was wrong? I don’t think there’s footage of the weigh in. But the commentators didn’t say anything and I think his opponent was 177 also. Maybe it was just the *****ed up 80s. It’s just something that annoys me is all. We deserve more as fans.

[Chollo Vista]

or at least second after Evander.

Evander is still the greatest fighter to fight at cruiserweight, but i have heard some argue that Usyk might be the greatest cruiserweight at all time.

Yes, Usyk is the greatest CW ever.

Golovkin is the greatest MW ever.

Marciano, Wlad or Fury are the greatest HWs ever.

And Loma is the greatest fighter ever.

Who am I missing?

[MulaKO]

Yes, Usyk is the greatest CW ever.

Golovkin is the greatest MW ever.

Marciano, Wlad or Fury are the greatest HWs ever.

And Loma is the greatest fighter ever.

Who am I missing?

Robert Helenius is the goat
Y’all forgot or what

[Chollo Vista]

Robert Helenius is the goat
Y’all forgot or what

[MulaKO]

It’s true ask Kownacki

[Chollo Vista]

It’s true ask Kownacki

Bwahahahahaha

You're actually right though lmao