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  • MastaBlasta
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    How to reinstate Same Day Weigh-Ins

    I'm aware of the Eddie Mustafa vs Michael Spinks situation ... that kinda caused the "day before fight" weigh-ins ... which in turn gave us all of the catchweight nonsense and "weight bullies" fighting in lower divisions. How to restore same day weigh-ins?

    I propose, in ALL major fights, where a cancellation took place due to MISSED WEIGHT, carried on any network/PPV/Streamed/Live-only venues (MAJOR being where the fight purse is $5 million and up for either fighter:

    1) Fighters must sign a guarantee to make weight. Failure would forfeit 90% of earnings for their next four fights. Forfeited monies to be shared by promoters/networks/providers affected by the cancellation, up to amount of declared loss.

    2) Also a lein on said fighters career earnings (if they do not complete four additional fights) in the amount of $100 million or 80% of declared loss on the fight, whichever is more. And ...

    3) Fighters required to be bonded specifically for making weight, equal to their purse for the fight, for sanctioning by the boxing orgs involved. To be required of the promoter to carry out, enforced by boxing orgs, with bond monies to be paid 100% to the network/provider carrying the fight. And ...

    4) Any champion missing weight is automatically stripped and banned from holding the title for 2 years. And ...

    5) Fighters to be weighed at 11am on the day of the fight (sooner where needed for early start times).

    Certainly there are lots of details to be clarified, but you get the idea. I think this would let all concerned know how serious the sport of Boxing is about making weight properly, and insuring that fighters are fighting in the proper divisions for major contests.

    Day of fight weigh-ins could return!

    Thoughts?
    Last edited by MastaBlasta; 04-03-2020, 08:32 PM.
  • QueensburyRules
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    #2
    Originally posted by MastaBlasta
    I'm aware of the Eddie Mustafa vs Michael Spinks situation ... that kinda caused the "day before fight" weigh-ins ... which in turn gave us all of the catchweight nonsense and "weight bullies" fighting in lower divisions. How to restore same day weigh-ins?
    - -When U old enough to ditch U BigBoy trainers, U be making the weight and qualify for kindergarten.

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    • _Rexy_
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      #3
      They won't do it due to fighter safety. Instead they're likely looking at second day rules like the IBF has, or the 30-15-1 program the WBC is implementing.

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      • Spray_resistant
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        Why? there's really no problem with how its done now

        If fighters are worried about guys coming in alot heavier than them the next day then they can move down or find another sport.

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        • Nicamex
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          #5
          Originally posted by Spray_resistant
          Why? there's really no problem with how its done now

          If fighters are worried about guys coming in alot heavier than them the next day then they can move down or find another sport.
          Weight classes exist for a reason, same day weight is the best way for combat.

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          • Spray_resistant
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            #6
            Originally posted by Nicamex
            Weight classes exist for a reason, same day weight is the best way for combat.
            You want to watch drained fighters fight because they had to do what they could to make weight earlier in the day?

            Not very entertaining, its better this way because they get to rehydrate, eat, rest up and come in fresh.

            No one has more advantages than anyone else.

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            • Slicedbread
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              #7
              Originally posted by MastaBlasta
              I'm aware of the Eddie Mustafa vs Michael Spinks situation ... that kinda caused the "day before fight" weigh-ins ... which in turn gave us all of the catchweight nonsense and "weight bullies" fighting in lower divisions. How to restore same day weigh-ins?

              I propose, in ALL major fights, where a cancellation took place due to MISSED WEIGHT, carried on any network/PPV/Streamed/Live-only venues (MAJOR being where the fight purse is $5 million and up for either fighter:

              1) Fighters must sign a guarantee to make weight. Failure would forfeit 90% of earnings for their next four fights. Forfeited monies to be shared by promoters/networks/providers affected by the cancellation, up to amount of declared loss.

              2) Also a lein on said fighters career earnings (if they do not complete four additional fights) in the amount of $100 million or 80% of declared loss on the fight, whichever is more. And ...

              3) Fighters required to be bonded specifically for making weight, equal to their purse for the fight, for sanctioning by the boxing orgs involved. To be required of the promoter to carry out, enforced by boxing orgs, with bond monies to be paid 100% to the network/provider carrying the fight. And ...

              4) Any champion missing weight is automatically stripped and banned from holding the title for 2 years. And ...

              5) Fighters to be weighed at 11am on the day of the fight (sooner where needed for early start times).

              Certainly there are lots of details to be clarified, but you get the idea. I think this would let all concerned know how serious the sport of Boxing is about making weight properly, and insuring that fighters are fighting in the proper divisions for major contests.

              Day of fight weigh-ins could return!

              Thoughts?

              Silly. Preposterous.

              The only way it should happen is if they find a hydration test that shows a fighter isn't dehydrated a certain amount of time before the fight. OneFC Singaporean-based MMA organization has something similar to this. Not same day weigh ins but they dont let fighters weigh in unless they meet certain hydration requirements.

              And even that supposedly has holes in it that are exploited.

              It's part and parcel of the fight game. Fighters should be able to negotiate accordingly regarding specific penalties but there should be no official policy enforced by the state commission.

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              • MulaKO
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                #8
                Originally posted by QueensburyRules
                - -When U old enough to ditch U BigBoy trainers, U be making the weight and qualify for kindergarten.
                Why is it every time you make comment on someone’s posting you do it with ****** sarcasm
                But when you spoke to John Scully about you sparring him you used your BigBoy voice
                Your fughin condescendant azzhole , that’s why
                How that for your BigBoy undies , fughin fool
                Last edited by MulaKO; 04-03-2020, 10:37 PM.

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                • fourtheboys96
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                  #9
                  If there is a way to measure hydration/dehydration level at a high accuracy, regulating agencies can use that to ensure safety of same-day weigh-ins.

                  Problem with combat sports is many fighters cut weight to unhealthy levels. Why? To gain size advantage on the ring-YES.
                  But if we dig deeper, these weight limits has become a dangerous over-simplification of "levelling the playing field" among combatants of different sizes. The weight limits has been abused because of this over-simplification.

                  If we really want safety, we should at least look at hydration level of the body. Disallow sever hydration at weigh in.

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                  • Mooon
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                    #10
                    If they reinstate same day weigh-ins. Half the fighters out there will rise in weight before their next fight. But I like the idea of reinstating it.

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