Can we all just lay off of ggg?

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  • Citizen Koba
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    #11
    Originally posted by Curt Henning
    hbo greenlit fights for him, as a headliner, they probably wouldnt have for anyone else man....and they paid him pretty well for those fights...hbo wanted/needed to try to cultivate a superstar.....they did a pretty good job with golovkin when you really look at it....

    golovkin is a very good fighter...but he had people believing he was some ATG that beats everyone and anyone ever at MW....hes not that guy....but people talked about him like he was
    TBH yeah, no doubt. The simple fact is they were operating on diminishing budgets for years and the way we can see it now in hindsight were trying to boost falling viewership by using a well established fornula for creating a star but trying to do it on a bargain basement budget. GGG first 3 or 4 fights on HBO were netting him in the region of $300 - 400 k and his opponents even less, which really is kinda peanuts by the standards of the well established stars of the day and low by the standards of any headliner.

    And I guess it worked to a pretty good extent - at least for Golovkin - who ultimately made out like a bandit, but it seems like both failing interst from the HBO execs and various powerplays from SHO and Haymon simply pushed 'em over the edge. Honestly if I'm GGG I'd be thanking god for whoever at HBO made the call on him, cos otherwise he would likely have ended up a perpetual fringe player like Andrade, never even getting the shots he did, and certainly never getting the DAZN deal that set him up generationally.
    Last edited by Citizen Koba; 04-02-2020, 04:37 PM.

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    • chirorickyp
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      #12
      One loss on the records and most think he won that fight. He's past his prime and he did it against one of the best pound for pound. I don't get it

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        #13
        His fans used to say he knocked out heavyweights in sparring

        Ever since that day, **** golovkins overrated a$$

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          #14
          Funny, I was thinking the same thing about all the Wilder bashing

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          • Chollo Vista
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            #15
            Originally posted by LDBC Slayer
            His fans used to say he knocked out heavyweights in sparring

            Ever since that day, **** golovkins overrated a$$
            The impression I always got is they wanted to create this mythological image of Golovkin. One that consisted of KO'ing Heavyweights in sparring, but never proving anything against an opponent at a weight as low as Super Middleweight in the ring.

            Just as Harry Greb is a legend without footage, or many fighters from Murderers Row are legendary without known footage, they wanted to create an idea that GGG is undefeated in all hypothetical bouts and seen as a God without actually proving it in the ring.

            Which is why every time G would say he would fight someone of a higher weight, only for said match to somehow fall a part in negotiations, they would count that as another win on his resume. {Insert fighter} ducked him so G wins by default.

            Any fight that fell a part, happened in sparring or made up by his fan base all counted as wins on his record. Why is this significant? Because when we're all old and grey, they can tell their kids about the Legend from Kazakhstan who was the greatest fighter ever who could defeat any fighter known to man only if they had the courage to step in the ring with him in real life.

            Much easier to build a reputation like that with fantasy than proof in the ring.

            Hell, the rumor was Golovkin stopped Kovalev in "sparring". Somehow this went on G's resume as a win.

            Can you imagine 50 years from now our great grand children talking about the Legend GGG who slayed a prime Kovalev except it wasn't televised?

            This is the fantasy that comes to mind when we think about the potential of the Murderers Row. Not taking anything from the M.R, but this was the atmospherics they were trying to build for Golovkin

            Crazy when you think about it
            Last edited by Chollo Vista; 04-02-2020, 07:53 PM.

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              #16
              Originally posted by Seps210
              I like GGG represents for the Asians
              Borat also represents the ******s

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                #17
                Yeah man, GGG is ****ing garbage. Terrible fighter.



                And he's Canelo's best win.

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                  #18
                  Originally posted by chirorickyp
                  One loss on the records and most think he won that fight. He's past his prime and he did it against one of the best pound for pound. I don't get it
                  No. Most dont think anything. Maybe "most" Trump dick riding cucks think GGG won the rematch but basically the entire country KNOWS Canelo won the fight...why?

                  Borat needed 9 months off
                  Borat has been fighting construction workers
                  Borat crying about judging (again) even though his own trainer said he lost
                  Borat fired his trainer
                  Borat fought at a CW which he said he would never do

                  Meanwhile Canelo dominated Danny Jacobs - a guy who arguably beat Borat - and Borat never thought once let alone twice about rematching him.

                  Canelo went on to win belt at LHW and win FOTY in 2019.

                  Borat lost to Dervenchenko but got a gift robbery. Guess what? No cries about judging now...and no cries about rematch or venue now....

                  Absolute joke.

                  And let's not forget this is a guy with 7 champion opponents in 45 pro fights...and 1 of those 7 was a WELTERWEIGHT at MIDDLEWEIGHT. A HORRIFIC resume, but a cab driving, construction whooping, and bum stomping extraordinaire!!111

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                    #19
                    Originally posted by UNBANNED
                    No. Most dont think anything. Maybe "most" Trump dick riding cucks think GGG won the rematch but basically the entire country KNOWS Canelo won the fight...why?

                    Borat needed 9 months off
                    Borat has been fighting construction workers
                    Borat crying about judging (again) even though his own trainer said he lost
                    Borat fired his trainer
                    Borat fought at a CW which he said he would never do

                    Meanwhile Canelo dominated Danny Jacobs - a guy who arguably beat Borat - and Borat never thought once let alone twice about rematching him.

                    Canelo went on to win belt at LHW and win FOTY in 2019.

                    Borat lost to Dervenchenko but got a gift robbery. Guess what? No cries about judging now...and no cries about rematch or venue now....

                    Absolute joke.

                    And let's not forget this is a guy with 7 champion opponents in 45 pro fights...and 1 of those 7 was a WELTERWEIGHT at MIDDLEWEIGHT. A HORRIFIC resume, but a cab driving, construction whooping, and bum stomping extraordinaire!!111
                    Only with you groupies can Canelo beating Jacobs 7-5 be a domination, but Golovkin beating Dervenchenko 7-5 is a ROBBERY.

                    Jesus Christ. Oh, and cute that all Golovkin fans are Trump supporters now.


                    And what fight was FOTY 2019 that Canelo was in? Lmfao.

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                      #20
                      Originally posted by _Rexy_
                      Only with you groupies can Canelo beating Jacobs 7-5 be a domination, but Golovkin beating Dervenchenko 7-5 is a ROBBERY.

                      Jesus Christ. Oh, and cute that all Golovkin fans are Trump supporters now.


                      And what fight was FOTY 2019 that Canelo was in? Lmfao.
                      Canelo was FIGHTER of the year in 2019.

                      If you had Canelo beating Jacobs 7-5 than you are LDBC and I'll be blocking you

                      Nobody had GGG winning 7-5 over Derv...best possible score was 8-4 Derv or 115-112 cause of the KD. By the way that KD was a rabbit punch...Borat not crying about that either...because it benefited him

                      Things are only a problem when they dont work FOR HIM. That's the definition of a brat.

                      So happy Canelo fighting him again...gonna be murda, murda, murda, murda, murda

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