I'd say Estrada is. No complaints if people say Canelo but I think Estrada is more talented.
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Comments Thread For: Munguia: Canelo is The Best Mexico Has, Why The Haters?
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Originally posted by kidbazooka View PostIf that’s the case then all these fake ass hype jobs from the Uk and USA are utter garbage being that canelo is the p4p best today.
Fucckin haters.
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Originally posted by Jim Tom View PostCanelo is not pound for pound the best. You have to be a dominating fighter to get such accolades. Canelo has been in too many controversial fights or rather robberies to be in the top 10. Pound for pound fighters lose very few rounds. You can’t say that about Canelo.
Let me ask you a rethorical question.
At one point did you think GGG was the no. 1 pound for pound?
Dominating low level opp is not gonna give you P4P status, beating the best is gonna give you that status even if it's earned on close fights.
Mayweather had his close fights too, Castillo 1, Cotto, Maidana 1, Augustus, Judah, DLH, still he beat those guys, he earned his #1 spot.
Ward did it too, majority of the people thought he should've lost to Kovalev on the first fight still he won, it might not been totally fair but he won his #1 p4p status beating Kovalev.
Canelo has been given benefits and that is true, I consider him to have 3 loses, to me he lost to Lara and lost to GGG 1st time. but that's it, he did not get washed out by those guys.
Only fighter who has beat Alvarez pillar to post is Mayweather. don't come here saying he's been whooped because that is a lie.
Last reply to you, I don't like to engage with BIAS haters of fanboys.
Have a nice day and keep hating on whatever you want to hate.
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Originally posted by Jim Tom View PostWhich fighters did Mayweather bring from lower weights? Don’t tell us about Marquez because you if it was ok for him to fight Pacquiao it should be fine for him to fight Mayweather. Why even bring Mayweather into this thread, this is about Mexican beef Dodgy Decisions Canelo.
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Cleneros a red headed fraud
People don't like him cause he's a ginger fraud that always needs Golden Shower Promotions to help him on the cards. First it was Froid Gayweather and now Clenero is (fraud 2.0) he's a cheater that gets away with everything cause he's the cash cow. His knees are shot that's why I would've liked to see him vs Saunders cause he's a skilled mover not a stationary target like most of Carnelito opponents.
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People who care for justice cannot stomach seeing him getting every benefit by the boxing establishment(Organizations giving him preferential treatment, judges giving him all the competitive rounds, commissions and journalists looking the other way for his doping/catchweights) just because he's the cash cow....add his diva behaviour and there's a reason some fans dont like him....plus half of actual Mexicans also hated being fed the narrative of his greatness by TV stations years before he fought people his size who weren't old...while the other half bought the hype...GGG being completely overhyped has helped Canelo's reputation immensely since He was "supposed" to kill him. American journalists will never accept they just hyped both guys too much so now we're supposed to believe they're ATG'sLast edited by -Hyperion-; 03-27-2020, 06:30 PM.
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You know it’s interesting.....we hear so mu about “british boxing” we see the country of mexico touted as this amazing thing for boxing......when are we going to see the same for “American boxing” or celebrate the USA as a great contributor to the sport? Obviously the is the case as foreign promoters are Ben attempting to break into the American boxing market....so why don’t we hear it mentioned?
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Originally posted by Jim Tom View PostCanelo is not pound for pound the best. You have to be a dominating fighter to get such accolades. Canelo has been in too many controversial fights or rather robberies to be in the top 10. Pound for pound fighters lose very few rounds. You can’t say that about Canelo.
pound for pound fighters lose very few rounds
pacquaio lost plenty of rounds at higher levels
loma loses rounds and got dropped
Crawford hasn't fought anybody of elite level recently and when he did against Gamboa, dude lost first 5 rounds
what the f are u talking about?
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More reasons to dislike him than like him. Ped user, entitled diva who gets favorable treatment from Judges and title organizations (more so than anyone I can recall ever), more catch weight fights/rehydration clauses than anyone I can think of.... If it wasn't for the fact that he's Mexican, about 90% of the fans defending him wouldn't like him either. They've hated other fighters for much less.
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