Who had the most creative combos?

[Thraxox]

He's right though, Pac doesn't belong.


So creative literally no one ever named anything after him or anything he ever did in the ring.


That time he got in trouble for throwing two hands at once was cute though.

So Pacquiao is not creative puncher? How about the punchea that knocked Thurman down? His trademark right feint, straight left to the body then righr hook to the temple. It has not yet been replicatee by anyone.

Hatton fight, Hatton throwing a straight right which Pacquiao duck and countered with 1-2 to seal with a knock down.

The Dela Hoya fight alone showed how creative Pacquiao is. To actually think Pacquiao is not actuallu creative and just throws a lot of punches without any variety shows ignorance.

Volume punchers that have no variety are Russel Jr not Pacquiao
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[Thraxox]

Ya i totally was just thinking good combination punchers , and didnt even read into creative . I agree with your post here 100% I kind of dove into the thread without thinking and didnt read all the posts lol . I'd go with gonzalez out of the other fighters I listed in that case . Becuase hes active and doesnt get enough respect these days imo . Mike tysons right hook to the body right uppercut upstairs was a thing of beauty, very creative .

Gonzalez, Marquez, Pacquiao, Mike Tyson. Are great examples. The clinic that Gonzalez produced against.Yafai was a thing of beauty.

[Bandman]

oscar was a beast with the combos.

[NORMNEALON]

Pacman doesnt belong on this thread. There is a difference between being quick fisted and being able to throw combinations.

Pac’s game consists of element of surprise with his 1-2 combos but it doesnt really go beyond that.

When he does throw multiple shots, he does it on the forward move while being off balanced. Throwing left right , left right, left right is not what you call a creative combo puncher.

What gave anybody the idea that Pacman is some creative combination puncher lol.

Well I dont think pac is one of the MOST creative combination punchers , he throws great combinations and is more cerebrial in combo than the eye gives off . Plus when pac man utilized his right hook at his peak ( he seemed to stop utilizing it as often after a certain point ) with roach his combos were def creative he was a phenom . But generally speaking he can be run and punching sometimes throwing basic 1-2's so I see what you are getting at , but he still utilized alot more than that . I think pac is kind of sloppy aesthetically but when when u get into the mechanics he was creative as well. It just wasnt catchy to the eye if that makes sense ??

[aboutfkntime]

Who had the most creative combos?

Deontay Wilder.....

[Marchegiano]

So Pacquiao is not creative puncher? How about the punchea that knocked Thurman down? His trademark right feint, straight left to the body then righr hook to the temple. It has not yet been replicatee by anyone.

Hatton fight, Hatton throwing a straight right which Pacquiao duck and countered with 1-2 to seal with a knock down.

The Dela Hoya fight alone showed how creative Pacquiao is. To actually think Pacquiao is not actuallu creative and just throws a lot of punches without any variety shows ignorance.

Volume punchers that have no variety are Russel Jr not Pacquiao
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Okay, to be fair this may breakdown to more of a philosophical perspective issue than I was prepared for actually


I'm not saying Pac-Man is bad, not a thinker, or lacks creativity, but, boxing has a rich history of pioneers and Pac's just not one of them.

If this was about creative footwork I'd be promoting Pacquiao here myself, but, as far as creative combinations....man...c'mon, he's not even close. We've plenty of history with dudes who pioneered offensive techniques and used those techniques in combinations, why would you go with an inspired over an inspiration itself?



I clearly really like Marciano, and I can lay out elaborate offensive techniques Marciano employed that were much more elaborate and required much more patience than Dempsey, but, Dempsey's only the mug what pioneered 90% of what Marciano's perfecting anyway. So, creatively speaking I've to nod to Dempsey.

[Thraxox]

Okay, to be fair this may breakdown to more of a philosophical perspective issue than I was prepared for actually


I'm not saying Pac-Man is bad, not a thinker, or lacks creativity, but, boxing has a rich history of pioneers and Pac's just not one of them.

If this was about creative footwork I'd be promoting Pacquiao here myself, but, as far as creative combinations....man...c'mon, he's not even close. We've plenty of history with dudes who pioneered offensive techniques and used those techniques in combinations, why would you go with an inspired over an inspiration itself?



I clearly really like Marciano, and I can lay out elaborate offensive techniques Marciano employed that were much more elaborate and required much more patience than Dempsey, but, Dempsey's only the mug what pioneered 90% of what Marciano's perfecting anyway. So, creatively speaking I've to nod to Dempsey.

You didnt answer anything. I said asked if Pacquiao was not a pioneer as you claimed, then how come none came close on replicating Pacquiaos signature puches that dropped Thurman and Cotto. Pacquiao was the first to make such an approach on double feinting (sometimes landing the straight left to the body) to land a right hook. So if Pacquiao is a pioneer despite developing such an arsenal to his game, then no one is.

[NORMNEALON]

Lightweight Mosley was something else. He didn’t rely so much one or two shots like he did at higher weights. You never knew what sort of combination was coming next.

How could I have not mentioned lightweight mosely he was special. I wish fought mayweather at lightweight , not so sure floyd would have won it then . Mosely was a beast and as fluid and versatile in combination as any man who strapped a pair of gloves on .

[Marchegiano]

You didnt answer anything. I said asked if Pacquiao was not a pioneer as you claimed, then how come none came close on replicating Pacquiaos signature puches that dropped Thurman and Cotto. Pacquiao was the first to make such an approach on double feinting (sometimes landing the straight left to the body) to land a right hook. So if Pacquiao is a pioneer despite developing such an arsenal to his game, then no one is.

Yes I did, you're being ****** on purpose


Marche Says: Dudes who brought new punches to the sport and used them in combinations are a notch above those who did not.

Thraxox Says: But I never seen anyone throw that particular combination.


Twilight Zone? Being ****** on purpose? I give no ****s, you understand just ****ing fine and so does anyone else reading these posts so wtf bud?


I'm not going to score through fight films to see if anyone else ever threw a particular combo when I know others did throw specific punches for the first time in the sport and used them in combinations.....duh.



Or to say that differently, I gave it to you unchallenged, I am unwilling to verify or detract from your claim but rather stating even if that is the case it does not matter because he's still son'd by the likes of Kid McCoy, Jack Dempsey, and Joe Walcott.

[EDDIE SPERM]

Was it Hopkins? 1,2, headbutt, clinch, repeat?

Or was it Roy with those fast hands?
Was it toney?... Body head, head body, just like Trinidad.

Juan Diaz? 20 or so unanswered punches vs Billy the kid.

Vitali Klitschko? Roy said "you just don't see a big guy throw punches like that"

Was it Oscars smell for blood? Whenever he had an opponent hurt he hit those pitty Pat hands as fast as he could? He really had a great finishing touch, a killer instinct.

Or speaking of one, twos is it Wilder? Was it Lewis?

Your thoughts?

The Pac-Man!