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  • NORMNEALON
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    #31
    Originally posted by Fat_asian
    Was it Hopkins? 1,2, headbutt, clinch, repeat?

    Or was it Roy with those fast hands?
    Was it toney?... Body head, head body, just like Trinidad.

    Juan Diaz? 20 or so unanswered punches vs Billy the kid.

    Vitali Klitschko? Roy said "you just don't see a big guy throw punches like that"

    Was it Oscars smell for blood? Whenever he had an opponent hurt he hit those pitty Pat hands as fast as he could? He really had a great finishing touch, a killer instinct.

    Or speaking of one, twos is it Wilder? Was it Lewis?

    Your thoughts?
    Id have to go with mike Tysons right hook to the body, right uppercut upstairs . That combo was a think of beauty that you rarely see executed . For the good old one two CLEARLY Lennox if u are only gonna list lewis and wilder

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      #32
      Originally posted by PRINCEKOOL
      Sophisticated violence, that is the difference between Mike Tyson and some of these other fighters 'Manny Pacquiao for example? Just threw a lot of punches' I would not really describe him a creative & sophisticated offensive fighter.
      I’m a fan of Mike like most people. He was great at combos. But I think that was more due to his speed and power in both hands as opposed to calculations. His right to the body right uppercut was his most unique and impressive shot. The fact that it was a rare move and so effective for him could earn the term “sophisticated” for sure. But I’ve seen all of Mikes fights many times, and to me it honestly looks like he just mostly cycles through his combos more than anything else. He’s not a designed counter puncher. Mike slams into people with his one-twos then gets the ref to separate. He’s never really in that pocket breaking a guy down. That’s where he can eat shots himself, like vs Evander, Douglas, Lewis, Ruddock, even Botha. I think Manny is much the same. He jumps in and throws his favourite combos and gets out. Everyone knows his best move, but he’s great at it. He doesn’t sit in the pocket and break a guy down either. Course manny is also dangerous on the back foot as he was in the hatton fight. Both are great combo throwers, the best even. But I think they are more similar than different. Both fast and powerful, and send their best stuff repeatedly, instead of a vast variety based on their opponents. Just my two cents.

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      • LetOutTheCage
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        #33
        So many good ones to choose from:

        Ali - Never through bodyshots but had blistering hand speed and through some truly eye-catching flurries.
        SRL - Very fast hands like Ali but actually utilized bodyshots
        Haggler - Threw combinations while switching stances, the guy was a master at it
        Naseem - known more for his one punch power but on occasion he threw some extremely unorthodox combinations to get his opponent out the ring (would often leap in with an uppercut)

        more recent ones would include Mayweather (younger Floyd up to the Gatti fight), Pac obvious reasons, Cotto, Loma, chocolatito and Linares.

        I loved the way Cotto fought stylistically so would have to give it to him, he was built around throwing short sharp uppercuts and hooks. Very crisp combinations

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          #34
          Pacquiao and Marquez. One reason why their fights were so entertaining.

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          • PRINCEKOOL
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            #35
            Originally posted by Blond Beast
            I’m a fan of Mike like most people. He was great at combos. But I think that was more due to his speed and power in both hands as opposed to calculations. His right to the body right uppercut was his most unique and impressive shot. The fact that it was a rare move and so effective for him could earn the term “sophisticated” for sure. But I’ve seen all of Mikes fights many times, and to me it honestly looks like he just mostly cycles through his combos more than anything else. He’s not a designed counter puncher. Mike slams into people with his one-twos then gets the ref to separate. He’s never really in that pocket breaking a guy down. That’s where he can eat shots himself, like vs Evander, Douglas, Lewis, Ruddock, even Botha. I think Manny is much the same. He jumps in and throws his favourite combos and gets out. Everyone knows his best move, but he’s great at it. He doesn’t sit in the pocket and break a guy down either. Course manny is also dangerous on the back foot as he was in the hatton fight. Both are great combo throwers, the best even. But I think they are more similar than different. Both fast and powerful, and send their best stuff repeatedly, instead of a vast variety based on their opponents. Just my two cents.
            Manny Pacqauio was ether ATTACKING or DEFENDING 'He was like one of the characters from Street fighter the classic game for the Super Ninetindo. Pacqauio was not sophisticated enough to attack, defend and make decisions at high speeds when on the offensive 'If this was the case he would not of been sparked out badly by Marquez, ultimately? Pacqauio was caught badly, because he was just wading forward on the offensive mindlessly with ZERO CREATIVITY. There is no video footage that exist of Mike Tyson being caught mindlessly while on the offensive, ether his offense had already disarmed his opponents or? His speed of decision making ability/defense was just too sophisticated 'In all of his defeats he had to have the fight beaten completely out of him' but the sophisticated violence was always there etc

            In that short acute video I showed of Mike Tyson, at break neck speed he avoided a punch, smacked to the body, moved up top denoted a left hook, THREW A DUMMY IN A NANO second 'Bruno Instinctively probably thought? Here is a right hand coming my way but NO? **** another left hook was denoted on Bruno 'At this point most fighters go ballistic, their reptilian mind takes over, that never happened with Mike Tyson'

            Manny Pacqauio had the ability to throw plenty of punches, but he was not that sophisticated 'Pacqauio was always open to being ****** out badly, and he was finally by a Sophisticated violent fighter in Juan Manuel Marquez.

            Note: You have just basically explained what I have been saying, Pacqauio ether jumps in or jumps out 'On the attack or on the defense' He has never really shown the ability to attack, defend and make decisions at high speed simultaneously.
            Last edited by PRINCEKOOL; 03-20-2020, 06:53 AM.

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              #36
              Originally posted by Dolor
              Lomachenko.
              My vote also

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                #37
                Originally posted by PRINCEKOOL
                Post some footage of Manny Pacquiao being creative 'Sure he could throw a lot of punches, but AT high speeds was he really that creative? Pacquiao is not really a creative combination puncher, he just did not have a off switch at times'.
                what a dumb post... so if pac is not creative with his punches and is just throwing them out in bunches, then they wouldnt land or be that effective!! or are you telling me his opponents are just idiots like you???

                let me try and throw 20 wild punches at you non stop. do you think i'll be able to land on you? and be effective with it?

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                • FinitoxDinamita
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                  #38
                  Pacman doesnt belong on this thread. There is a difference between being quick fisted and being able to throw combinations.

                  Pac’s game consists of element of surprise with his 1-2 combos but it doesnt really go beyond that.

                  When he does throw multiple shots, he does it on the forward move while being off balanced. Throwing left right , left right, left right is not what you call a creative combo puncher.

                  What gave anybody the idea that Pacman is some creative combination puncher lol.

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                  • STREET CLEANER
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                    #39
                    Originally posted by FinitoxDinamita
                    Ricardo Lopez.. his combos are swift, accurate, and extremely lethal. His punch placement, timing, and form are perfect.

                    I liked the combo Terry Norris landed on Leonard. I forgot the sequence but i think it started with a jab, followed by a left hook to the body and ended with an uppercut. It was the kind of sht that masters like JameS Toney throws.
                    This right here.

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                    • STREET CLEANER
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                      #40
                      Originally posted by aboutfkntime
                      Marquez

                      dude has every punch in the book... and then some

                      many were added to the book, by him

                      everyone knows that he is one of the best counter-punchers you will ever see... but he is also one of the best combination punchers you will ever see

                      I liked Barrera and Morales better for that. Marquez used to sit back waiting to counter. The other two forced the action.

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