What did Canelo's fights with Cotto and Kovalev have in common?

[ruedboy]

You noobs are sad as ****kkk canelo beat the fucck outta you’re fighters so now you clowns can’t take it.

I’ll tell you what’s a scam Fury is scam who is on his way to an 8 yr ban.

Really good, intelligent response!

[ruedboy]

TRUTH . Couldnt have said it better myself. Maybe both guys were past their best days however they were both world champions, and future hall of famers. Cotto was coming off arguably the biggest win / accomplishment of his career and kovalev was a consensus top 5 light heavyweight. Not much to complain about . Who else should nelo have fought at the time ? I know we all wanted ggg but he won the lineal and wbc title and made that matchup even bigger . As for kova I'd say team cinnamon picked a pretty tough fight to test the waters with at light heavy . I think kova at LHW is a riskier fight than BJS at super middle . And I'd rather have seen that fight than nelo vs Andrade tbh .

Cotto was coming off the biggest win of his career? Miguel beat a 39 year old guy coming off an 18 month layoff after multiple surgeries, wearing 2 knee braces, who looked to fighting on 1 leg. Those are just facts.

[ruedboy]

That’s BS.
Most posters here claimed he is shot and lost his heart after plasterito demolished him.
2 beatings later he was back to his prime here in boxingscene against floyd at 31.
Then almost 4 years later at 35 he’s back and improved against Canelo? Wtf. I didn’t realize that’s how this sport goes when every fighter in history is against that graph.

He was past his prime against Canelo and has no advantage over him except for experience. He was a blown up light middleweight and has even a flabby tummy at welter.
Yet canelo still failed to make a statement against him. The bigger, younger, stronger and faster guy coming to the prime of his life, had a competitive match with cotto.
That was disappointing to say the least.

True. When Canelo didn't dominate Cotto, after Pac had destroyed, was a revelation that maybe this guy was a bit overrated.

[Derranged]

at Cotto and Kovalev being "hypejobs". That's all I'm gonna say about this nonsense.

[Thuglife Nelo]

I like when Canelo haters say ''he fought Cotto at a catchweight'' not knowing that it was Cotto whom demanded this A style stipulation. These are confused thinking that Canelo gave Cotto a disadvantage in draining Miguel for 155? Or are the Canelo haters trying to say, ''Canelo should've fought Cotto at the full 160.'' lol.

[emceetns]

Cotto was very competitive in a fight where he was outweighed by at least 15 pounds. I thought he held his own very well against a bigger, stronger Canelo. Even Kovalev was boxing well for most of the fight. He stayed behind his jab but got caught in the end. I would call these good but not great wins for Canelo.

That's a fair assessment. Spot on.

[emceetns]

True. When Canelo didn't dominate Cotto, after Pac had destroyed, was a revelation that maybe this guy was a bit overrated.

I think Cotto also deserves credit for exceeding expectations. Also, the style match-ups were completely different when you talk about Canelo and Pacquiao vs. Cotto. Pacquiao overwhelmed his opponents with speed and volume while Canelo is more calculating and Cotto was obviously better suited for a chess match than violent exchanges.

[emceetns]

Cotto was coming off the biggest win of his career? Miguel beat a 39 year old guy coming off an 18 month layoff after multiple surgeries, wearing 2 knee braces, who looked to fighting on 1 leg. Those are just facts.

Hindsight is 20-20 so yes, those are facts. It's important to remember what everyone was saying at the time though:

https://roundbyroundboxing.com/staff-predictions-miguel-cotto-vs-sergio-martinez/2/

A lot of people were picking Martinez to win, even if he wasn't 100 percent going in, because they felt that Cotto was simply too small to compete at middleweight.

It's also worth mentioning that Martinez himself made it a point to not blame his knee for losing.

[NORMNEALON]

Cotto was coming off the biggest win of his career? Miguel beat a 39 year old guy coming off an 18 month layoff after multiple surgeries, wearing 2 knee braces, who looked to fighting on 1 leg. Those are just facts.

I agree but on paper and historically it was huge for Cotto. He won a 4th divisional title and the lineal championship well past his best weight . That's why I put arguably . No one expected cotto to win that fight they didnt give him a hope in hell and he solidified his position as one of the best fighters from Puerto Rico's with that win . But i agree 100% Martinez was injured etc. But that's not cottos fault and no one picked him to win that fight . Historically it was right up there with his best wins stipulations or not