What did Canelo's fights with Cotto and Kovalev have in common?

[ruedboy]

Answer: They were both scams and hype jobs.
Cotto was probably one of the weakest MW "Champs" in modern MW history but his Puerto Rican fan base coupled with Alvarez's Mexican base made for a lucrative payday for the sport. The smart money knew Cotto had been a shot fighter for a while and the only surprising thing about the fight was Canelo's lack of killer instinct against his older, slower, smaller opponent.
Kovalev meanwhile was coming off a life and death fight against a virtual unknown and had been "one punch away from retiring," Couple that with the fact that the vulnerable Kovalev was coming into the fight after a short camp and you had a KO waiting to happen. The hype in this fight was Alvarez going after "4 Championship Belts" lol and moving up in weight, but except for casual fans there was never a doubt about the outcome.

[Santa_]

Nothing the Cotto fight was a lot more competitive.

[KillaMane26]

Cotto vs Canelo made sense tho... It would have been ****** to not make on both ends.

[Larry the boss]

Cotto was no more of a middleweight then Canelo was at the time..both were 154 fighters who fought at a catchweight.... Cotto is a proven elite boxer and so was Kovalev..Both BEAT OTHER WORLD CHAMPS AND ATG'S.. How can you tarnish them and act liek they were nothing?

[Larry the boss]

I really have no idea what ya'll want out of this sport..ya'll praise people who fight no one while trashing people who fight proven boxers

[ruedboy]

I really have no idea what ya'll want out of this sport..ya'll praise people who fight no one while trashing people who fight proven boxers

It's simple to understand, if you don't let your emotions get the best of you.
Every good fighter has an arc to their career. They start out young and make their debut, then they start getting more experience, improve and eventually they peak, gradually they age and then they fade. Are Cotto and Kovalev world class fighters? Of course.
Were they world class fighters as they aged and taken punishment. I don't think so.
I respect all fighters but it's just a fact that even great fighters fade and become vulnerable.
I just don't like when promoters try to hype fights into something they're not.
BTW I'm saying the fights were scams not the fighters.

[GhostofDempsey]

Cotto was very competitive in a fight where he was outweighed by at least 15 pounds. I thought he held his own very well against a bigger, stronger Canelo. Even Kovalev was boxing well for most of the fight. He stayed behind his jab but got caught in the end. I would call these good but not great wins for Canelo.

[Black Jesus]

I don't have a problem with smart matchmaking

[KillaMane26]

I don't have a problem with smart matchmaking

This how i feel.... I have no problem with either fight. It was perfect matchmaking and all parties benefited.

But i will be honest about the details surrounding the fight,

Basically don't call me hater for keeping shyt a hunnid

[dibzvincent143]

Cotto was no more of a middleweight then Canelo was at the time..both were 154 fighters who fought at a catchweight.... Cotto is a proven elite boxer and so was Kovalev..Both BEAT OTHER WORLD CHAMPS AND ATG'S.. How can you tarnish them and act liek they were nothing?

Attention to details though. Cotto was indeed past his best during that time and every advantage there was goes to Canelo yet he failed to make a statement. I was disappointed with his performance, he was bigger, faster, younger and has better reflexes but ended up in a close fight lol.

If we just gonna base everything on names on resume then floyd is flat out the goat by a mile. But attention to detail matters. Cmon you’re better than that.