What did Canelo's fights with Cotto and Kovalev have in common?

[REdrUm0351]

Canelo is a talented fighter who is throwing shade at his own career by nitpicking every advantage he can. Worst apart about it is he doesn’t need those advantages. I don’t know if its just Oscar but with Canelos clout he could of been lineal at 168 already and then gave Kovalev ample time with no stipulations so there wouldn’t be any haters to complain. Then win or lose he could of set up a clash for lineal at 175. He would of gotten so much more respect but instead his team plays games, makes stipulations to gain a advantage, and does this to fighters on the slide. Why would you need to use the negotiation table against past prime fighters like this? I think Canelo is a great fighter but it puts asterisks next to his wins.

[-Kev-]

I really have no idea what ya'll want out of this sport..ya'll praise people who fight no one while trashing people who fight proven boxers

It’s sickening at this point. Boxing fans are the worst sports fans on Earth.

[Fat_asian]

The cotto fight was competitive, a good big man beating a good smaller man. But the kovalev was special matchmaking, Sergei was having trouble taking in any types of head trauma these days ie he wasn't responding good to punches. Hey man srl did the same thing with Donny lalonde, do you truly think he would have moved up to lt. Heavyweight if the competition was real? Not calling him a coward never in a million years, but the size difference of 175 is too great for sugar.

[Fat_asian]

Actually I regret that, srl would have the cajones to fight a legit light heavy weight instead of "just being at a catch-weight"

[Caxcan]

Lol ask Martinez or 180+lb Geale whether Cotto was shot. Cotto was the lineal champ and being described as new and improved with Roach in his corner. As for Kovalev he was the overall most accomplished fighter in the division and remained the number 2 ranked champ coming off of beating two undefeated LIGHT HEAVYWEIGHTS including avenging a previous loss. There are many fighters who become champs by claiming vacant belts or never test the waters in higher divisions, but you're somehow criticizing Canelo for taking on future hall of famers who remained #1-2 in their divisions, including one who he jumped up to his 5th division to face? Ridiculous.

[Fists_of_Fury]

Attention to details though. Cotto was indeed past his best during that time and every advantage there was goes to Canelo yet he failed to make a statement. I was disappointed with his performance, he was bigger, faster, younger and has better reflexes but ended up in a close fight lol.

If we just gonna base everything on names on resume then floyd is flat out the goat by a mile. But attention to detail matters. Cmon you’re better than that.

Like Pacquiao fought everybody at their best...

[dibzvincent143]

Like Pacquiao fought everybody at their best...

What this gotta do with pacquiao??!

Am i wrong to say cotto was past his best when he fought Canelo? And canelo was the younger, bigger, stronger and faster fighter yet he failed to demolished cotto?
I was actually expecting Canelo’s advantages to be on full display. And boy was I wrong.

[kidbazooka]

It's simple to understand, if you don't let your emotions get the best of you.
Every good fighter has an arc to their career. They start out young and make their debut, then they start getting more experience, improve and eventually they peak, gradually they age and then they fade. Are Cotto and Kovalev world class fighters? Of course.
Were they world class fighters as they aged and taken punishment. I don't think so.
I respect all fighters but it's just a fact that even great fighters fade and become vulnerable.
I just don't like when promoters try to hype fights into something they're not.
BTW I'm saying the fights were scams not the fighters.

You noobs are sad as ****kkk canelo beat the fucck outta you’re fighters so now you clowns can’t take it.

I’ll tell you what’s a scam Fury is scam who is on his way to an 8 yr ban.

[dibzvincent143]

Lol ask Martinez or 180+lb Geale whether Cotto was shot. Cotto was the lineal champ and being described as new and improved with Roach in his corner. As for Kovalev he was the overall most accomplished fighter in the division and remained the number 2 ranked champ coming off of beating two undefeated LIGHT HEAVYWEIGHTS including avenging a previous loss. There are many fighters who become champs by claiming vacant belts or never test the waters in higher divisions, but you're somehow criticizing Canelo for taking on future hall of famers who remained #1-2 in their divisions, including one who he jumped up to his 5th division to face? Ridiculous.

That’s BS.
Most posters here claimed he is shot and lost his heart after plasterito demolished him.
2 beatings later he was back to his prime here in boxingscene against floyd at 31.
Then almost 4 years later at 35 he’s back and improved against Canelo? Wtf. I didn’t realize that’s how this sport goes when every fighter in history is against that graph.

He was past his prime against Canelo and has no advantage over him except for experience. He was a blown up light middleweight and has even a flabby tummy at welter.
Yet canelo still failed to make a statement against him. The bigger, younger, stronger and faster guy coming to the prime of his life, had a competitive match with cotto.
That was disappointing to say the least.

[NORMNEALON]

Cotto was no more of a middleweight then Canelo was at the time..both were 154 fighters who fought at a catchweight.... Cotto is a proven elite boxer and so was Kovalev..Both BEAT OTHER WORLD CHAMPS AND ATG'S.. How can you tarnish them and act liek they were nothing?

TRUTH . Couldnt have said it better myself. Maybe both guys were past their best days however they were both world champions, and future hall of famers. Cotto was coming off arguably the biggest win / accomplishment of his career and kovalev was a consensus top 5 light heavyweight. Not much to complain about . Who else should nelo have fought at the time ? I know we all wanted ggg but he won the lineal and wbc title and made that matchup even bigger . As for kova I'd say team cinnamon picked a pretty tough fight to test the waters with at light heavy . I think kova at LHW is a riskier fight than BJS at super middle . And I'd rather have seen that fight than nelo vs Andrade tbh .