How can GGG fans keep defending this clown?

[David Svennigse]

TBH, he should get 500K or less for his next fight.

No fighter should have the nerve to make more for that kind of fight.

DAZN is disingenuous to make the kind of financial arrangement he has with them. It's a business, not a charitable organization.

Yes, I agree with you. It's not a charitable organization.

[stealthradon]

Golovkin is NOT an ATG... that is nonsense

FACT: he does not have a signature, or career-defining, win

not one

ATG = resume ONLY

ATG is not a guess, like P4P is... ATG has to be proven

P4P = style/skills/form/eye test... not ATG... ATG is resume only

if you have not banked those wins... you need not apply for the position

you can argue that he may have beaten some of those guys... but that is irrelevant, because he did not

I am not convinced at all that Golovkin could have beaten Pavlik

So is Canelo an ATG, and what is his career defining win?

[kafkod]

Canelo is set to face BJS while GGG is set to face the mighty Szecannn with a total of 5 KOs smh

You can’t make this **** up this is like the 34th bum on this clowns record yet his fans just turn a blind eye but proceed to bash Canelo for facing Saunders lol

Unbelievable.

How can you defend a PED cheat whose promoter bribes judges to give him victories he didn't deserve?

GGG fought and beat Deravyenchenko, who Canelo ditched the IBF title and ran away from in fear.


How can you support a guy who has twice given up titles and run away when ordered to face tough opponents?

[REdrUm0351]

Golovkin is NOT an ATG... that is nonsense

FACT: he does not have a signature, or career-defining, win

not one

ATG = resume ONLY

ATG is not a guess, like P4P is... ATG has to be proven

P4P = style/skills/form/eye test... not ATG... ATG is resume only

if you have not banked those wins... you need not apply for the position

you can argue that he may have beaten some of those guys... but that is irrelevant, because he did not

I am not convinced at all that Golovkin could have beaten Pavlik

This right here. The eye test is only suitable for the coulda, woulda, shoulda, of speculating P4P of different eras. To be a ATG the resume has to be there and GGG doesn't have the resume of a ATG.

[Shadoww702]

How can you defend a PED cheat whose promoter bribes judges to give him victories he didn't deserve?

GGG fought and beat Deravyenchenko, who Canelo ditched the IBF title and ran away from in fear.


How can you support a guy who has twice given up titles and run away when ordered to face tough opponents?

Good god you get dumber by the minute. Why not let everyone know YOU had GGG by EASY KO! Then said Canelo would never rematch ggg.

I wish I would of screenshot your ****** fkn @ss back then... You a JOKE!

[Shadoww702]

So is Canelo an ATG, and what is his career defining win?

How many future HOFamers has GGG beat??? How many top P4Pers???

Canelo is a 1st time HOFamer when he’s up for election. GGG??? I’m not so sure

[Blond Beast]

Can you blame GGG, DAZN and his handlers?

He has 1 loss on his record but let’s be honest, he looked like a loser vs Jacobs and Derevyanchenko too. He’s very vulnerable right now.

The only time he’s looked great in his last 5 fights was vs Steve Rolls and Vanes. Basically the same kind of opponents he has looked good against in his whole career.

If his handlers/DAZN f/ck around and give him a good hungry fighter like they did with Jacobs and Derevyanchenko, he might end up losing this time. And an official loss on top of his recent poor performances might make him less marketable for DAZN. A hightlight reel TKO vs some no name is better than a loss or a poor performance in their eyes, and his fanbase eyes’.

I don’t agree with it, but I understand it. DAZN doesn’t want to ruin a trilogy that will get them more subs/revenue.

Why do they allow Canelo to keep fighting challenging opponents that have a pulse? They trust him to get the win without too much of a struggle. They don’t trust GGG to get a win too easily.0

This sounds about right to me. Calling GGG vulnerable is a good way to put it. DAZN always wanted that trilogy with Canelo. “Trilogy” always helps lend the notion that the fights were so great they have to do it a third time. Truth is we could just get more of the same, another polarizing twelve rounds. They need GGG to KO someone good. They don’t want to see him block punches with his face all night against a sub Canelo fighter, or god forbid lose. Canelo gets paid a ton and he’s a strong favourite against anyone he fights, so like u said he’s expected to do sum heavy lifting. I can’t say I cared to see a third fight, but at least it’s in a new venue. Plus if it gets signed up before these “interim” fights hopefully it won’t take to long to get them back in the ring. I’m not holding my breathe on anything though.

[-Kev-]

No. GGG is past his prime. He has one pay day left in him. I think he was an excellent fighter 8 years ago. Now ... he's old. That's why they're not putting him against live opponents.

If you put this older GGG in there vs the versions of Stevens, Rubio, Geale, Macklin, Rosado, Lemiuex, etc, now, he will still win in spectacular fashion. By dominating TKO victory.

The level of the fighter matters.

What he did to Rolls and Vanes, he is still capable of doing to those type of fighters for now, until about 3 years. His peak will be longer than usual. He did not have a lot of tough rounds at all before fighting Canelo. His toughest fight before that I will say was Ian Gardner. 2nd place I will give to Kassim Ouma, who was already a stepping stone at the time.

After the first Canelo fight he had a really tough time with Jacobs, a fight that may have been a draw. His toughest fight to date imo was vs Derevyanchenko. That fight probably took something out of him. That was really his first real, back and forth, grueling 12 round fight. It was a fight where I believe GGG lost. But it wasn’t a robbery. SD just fought him in a way that no one has ever thought of, which is a close quarters brawl where GGG appeared to be out of his element.

GGG is certainly not done yet. He is still dangerous to a certain level a fighter, like he always has been. You put him in with Murata, Liam Williams, Sulecki, etc. he would destroy them all under 12 rounds. And this Srezemeta dude with 5ko’s, he is getting destroyed too. GGG will look like his old self again just like he did vs Rolls and Vanes.

If he fights Canelo III, Jacobs II, Derevyanchenko II, Andrade, Charlo...he will look “old”. But out of those 5, I can see him possibly beating Charlo though.

[Lomasexual]

I don't know who are ******er. Canelo fangirls or Wilder fangirls.

On the whole, I think Wilder fangirls are marginally ******er. But Canelo fangirls are bigger cunts.

[kafkod]

How many future HOFamers has GGG beat??? How many top P4Pers???

He beat Canelo twice.