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  • REdrUm0351
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    #31
    Originally posted by MulaKO
    Unfortunately , that seems to be the norm in boxing these days
    Honestly I don’t think at this time in his career , Wilder can make many or the needed adjustments ( can’t teach an old dog new tricks ) but I do believe that he can knock him out
    But I’d be the first to say that no adjustments were made and he just relied on his one punch power
    Not new adjustments but to come in lighter and fight like he used too. He used to move alot more but got used to sitting in the middle inactive. If he can bring back the movement and unpredictability which made him awkward for fighters who faced him he could do alot better. Unfortunately he stopped doing alot of what made him a champ and fell into his own hype.

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    • Get em up
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      #32
      If Fury got banned for what amounts to the end of his career it would be a disgrace. I'm a Wilder fan but an 8 year ban would be ridiculous even if he is guilty. Miller basically just lost out on the AJ fight with no other real punishment and he was caught doing red handed 3 times over. Like Fury or not people should leave the past in the past.

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      • MulaKO
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        #33
        Originally posted by REdrUm0351
        I’m a American who thinks Wilder is number 2 in the world. I thought Fury won the first fight. I don’t think Fury is a ATG but his win against Wilder a undefeated champ with amazing power and athletic ability was a good one. The problem is you have all these fanboys flipping out because they don’t have any ability to analyze a fight. Fury didn’t have any amazing new power. He wore Wilder down mentally and physically by touching him, going to the body, leaning on him, and pressuring him for 3 mins of every round while Wilder came in heavier and is now used to waiting with no real pressure being applied by his opponent. The Wilder that fought Stiverne fought on the backfoot and used his jab to keep Stiverne at bay. Wilder has gotten complacent and it showed. Wilder also had a much better fighter than Stiverne in front of him who is much bigger also. If these “fans” think it was power that won Fury the fight they don’t know what they are watching. If their upset Fury was slapping Wilder watch the Wilder-Ortis fight. Wilder does the same crap. They need to become fans of the sport as a whole and get a lesson on how to analyze a fight. Power had nothing to do with it. Effective pressure did both physically and mentally. I expect Wilder to do better in a rematch and come in lighter and more mobile.
        Awesome assessment as a whole
        There was no fughin power involved , Fury still has pity pat shots
        Just he overwhelmed him by coming forward and throwing
        Mention needed for his plan of leaning and tiring him out , that was probably Fury’s best adjustment and the difference between the first and second fight
        Wilder was having a hard time holding on ffs , just didn’t know how and the fact he had no plan b or c was his downfall

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        • MulaKO
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          #34
          Originally posted by denium
          Innocent until proven guilty should still apply.
          And it is being applied but as a human with intelligence , I can like you can make up your own mind
          Right ?
          OJ was proven innocent , but no fughin way did I think he was innocent

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            #35
            Originally posted by REdrUm0351
            Not new adjustments but to come in lighter and fight like he used too. He used to move alot more but got used to sitting in the middle inactive. If he can bring back the movement and unpredictability which made him awkward for fighters who faced him he could do alot better. Unfortunately he stopped doing alot of what made him a champ and fell into his own hype.
            Absolutely right
            Not even the hype but relying on that punch is more like it
            This time he got played by his own game

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            • REdrUm0351
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              #36
              Originally posted by MulaKO
              Awesome assessment as a whole
              There was no fughin power involved , Fury still has pity pat shots
              Just he overwhelmed him by coming forward and throwing
              Mention needed for his plan of leaning and tiring him out , that was probably Fury’s best adjustment and the difference between the first and second fight
              Wilder was having a hard time holding on ffs , just didn’t know how and the fact he had no plan b or c was his downfall
              Exactly! Some of these posters need to go back and watch the fight. Maybe throw in some breakdown videos so they better understand what they are watching.

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              • LetOutTheCage
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                #37
                Originally posted by Ray*
                Nobody wants anything, everyone has moved on. Let UKAD get their money back for the wild boar lies that Team Fury use as their excuse. The belt is better in Fury's hands as we would get the undisputed fight. Even with this whole thing i now know Team Fury would be eager to make as much money as possible by doing the undisputed fight. Just to make sure nothing else gets in the way of everyone making their monies.

                Unfortunately they havent though, you need only look at the various threads created by Wilder fans asking for Fury to be banned.

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                • Opti500
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                  #38
                  Originally posted by denium
                  Not really. Fury served his time. How long did Canelo get banned for peds? What about Miller? Whyte?

                  Fury served a 2yr ban. If he had been popped recently, then fair enough, but it's been 5 years, he's tested clean ever since.
                  Please don't compare Fury and Canelo it's 2 different world, Canelo is a true champion and deserve the benefit of doubt not Fury.

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                    #39
                    Originally posted by Opti500
                    Please don't compare Fury and Canelo it's 2 different world, Canelo is a true champion and deserve the benefit of doubt not Fury.
                    Fury is just as much a champion as Canelo is, arguably more so. Canelo lost to Lara & GGG.

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                    • MulaKO
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                      #40
                      Originally posted by REdrUm0351
                      Exactly! Some of these posters need to go back and watch the fight. Maybe throw in some breakdown videos so they better understand what they are watching.
                      Hey man , not sure that would help cause many have agendas or some other sort of bullchit
                      Freaking out , it’s two days in a row that I’ve actually had pleasant discussions about boxing
                      Is boxinscene getting back to normal ?
                      Haha nahhh I don’t think so lol

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