Is 115-113x2 and 114-114 dominate?
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This is the only place where the majority think Canelo not only won but dominated
In the real World the majority realizes Golovkin won both fights.
The scored cards couldn’t be like the first fight which were borderline criminal , the cards were still low-Key manipulated for the Rematch, All 3 Judges gave Canelo the first 6/8-9 rounds basically guaranteeing at least a draw and most likely a W with 3-4 rounds to still to go
Canelos 4 Butchered Scoredcards Lara / Mayweather /Golovkin 2x Moretti was the Judge in everyone
In every one of those fights Moretti gives the 12th rd to Canelo ( Determining the outcome for Lara & Golovkin 2 115-113 both times )
Gave Canelo 3 of the last 4 rounds against Maywesther
Somehow Gave Canelo 5 of the last 6 rounds against Lara giving Canelo the win 115-113
Mayweather/Lara/Golovkin all judged the same.
1 Judge didn’t watch the fight and scored so ridiculous for Canelo looks like it was filled out before the fight 118-112/117-111/ 114-114
Second Judge ensures Canelo gets all the rounds in the 2nd half as humanly possible even if getting shalacked to steal a win (5-1 Lara ) earn a undeserved draw (4-2 Golovkin ) Or at least make the fight look close if getting shutout ( 3-3 Mayweather )
3rd Judge scores what usually would be scored a 117-113/116-112 type of fight into a razor thin 115-113 for Opponet or in the case of Mayweather a 119-109 score into a 117-111 ( Again Most being awarded in the 2nd half )
Canelo fans on here know he didn’t win but it’s easier to lie and convince yourself he deserved the W when you say he dominated instead of admitting Canelo just scrapped by a W by the thinnest of margins which for a Figjter whos never had a score go against him in his entire career should be a clear indication he lost
Canelo raised his level and Lara did what he does a lot imo...he coasted too much and let his opponent into it more than he should have.Comment
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In general I agree with your post...I would just say that when I scored Lara-Canelo, I gave Canelo the last 4 rounds as well, to get him a 7-5 win on my card..and Lara is one of my favorites to watch in this era.
Canelo raised his level and Lara did what he does a lot imo...he coasted too much and let his opponent into it more than he should have.
Lara started off strong using his movement to take the first 3-4 rounds leaving Canelo so frustrated he actually bull rushes Lara because he had absolutely no answer at all.
Canelo lands a Monster shot on Lara I want to say round 5 , Hurts Lara and Canelo is able to grab about 3 rounds while Lara is recovering
Once Lara is able to shake it off and get his sh.it together , he goes back to winning the rounds. I think Showtime had it 9-3 for Lara at worst it was 8-4.
After Canelo landed that Hammer he didn’t land anything meaningful again ,
I’ve never seen a fight and still haven’t seen another fight where the fighter was given rounds because of so called body shots that were mostly blocked like Canelo was while Lara was consistently landing
I know this isn’t how you judge who won but look at Canelo after the fight , He’s totally dejected , Head down knowing he lost his corner telling him to not look like he lost.
Gets gifted a decision then uses the excuse every fighter uses when they didn’t do sh.it , Oh Lara ran and the media / fans runs with it.
Just my opinion
Lara got jobbed worse then GolovkinComment
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If anybody watches UFC, there’s an IG page that scores fights with a much more accurate system.
It’s an improved 10-9 system.
So instead of 10-9, they’ll score it 9.72 vs 9.28, which would give a +.24 score for said fighter in said round. So it scores the rounds 10-9, but also by scoring just how much of the round was won.
In the end, they’ll tally up who has most overall points awarded, rather than who “won” each round.
So an example would be if a fighter wins 5 rounds but very dominantly, and the other fighter wins 7 rounds but he barely edged each round, then the other fighter who won 5 rds. dominantly would win due to overall points accumulated in comparison to his opponent. It’s a much much more accurate and telling points system.Comment
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The majority of the boxing community had similar scores so let's not act like I'm the one lying.
Can you name a time where all of the media score cards disagreed with the result?
Canelo fans want to act like the media or people have an agenda but in the same breath say things like, Canelo is the A-side, Canelo is so popular, Canelo is the face of boxing.
How can someone with so many fans have a fight scored against them? Would you like to name some examples? I can show you a few examples of favorable score cards for Canelo in Vegas.
Look at the media score cards.
Brian Campbell (CBS sports): 116-112 Golovkin
Dan Rafael (ESPN): 114-114 draw
Stephen A. Smith (ESPN): Golovkin won
Arash Markazi (ESPN): 114-114 draw
Brett Okamoto (ESPN): 114-114 draw
Teddy Atlas - Golovkin won
Salvador Rodríguez (ESPN Mexico): 114-114 draw
Eduardo Lamazón (Televisa): 116-112 Golovkin
Gareth A Davies (The Telegraph): 116-112 Golovkin
Josh Peter (USA Today): 115-113 Golovkin
Sports Illustrated: 114-114 draw
Dylan Hernandez (LA Times): 115-113 Golovkin
Lance Pugmire (La Times): 114-114 draw
BoxingScene: 114-114 draw
Chris Mannix (Yahoo! Sports): 115-113 Golovkin
Kevin Iole (Yahoo! Sports): 114-114 draw
The Guardian: 116-112 Golovkin
Joe DePaolo (Washington Post): 115-113 Golovkin
Mike Coppinger (Ring Magazine): 114-114 draw
Douglass Fischer (Ring Magazine): 114-114 draw
Mike Baca II (Ring Magazine and Undisputed Champion Network): 115-113 Golovkin
Al Bernstein (Showtime Sports): Golovkin won
Sherdog.com: 116-112 Golovkin
Jai Bednall (news.com.au): 115-113 Golovkin
Brian Mazique (Forbes): 114-114 draw
Adam Abramowitz (Ring Magazine and SN Boxing): 115-113 Golovkin
Tom Craze (Bad Left Hook): 116-112 Golovkin
Fraser Coffeen (Bloody Elbow): 115-113 Golovkin
Anton Tabuena (Bloody Elbow): 115-113 Golovkin
The Associated Press: 114-114 draw
Adam Caparell (Complex Sports): 116-112 Golovkin
Bill Simmons (HBO and The Ringer): 114-114 draw
Steven Muehlhausen (Sporting News): 116-112 Golovkin
Andreas Hale (Sporting News): Golovkin won
Graham Houston (Boxing Monthly): Canelo won
Michael Montero (MonteroOnBoxing): 115-113 Golovkin
Matt Christie (Boxing News): 115-114 Golovkin
George Willis (New York Post): 114-114 draw
Gary Melo (SportsNet Canada): Golovkin won
Below The Belt Podcast: 115-113 Golovkin
World Boxing News: 115-113 Golovkin
Jeff Powell (Daily Mail): 116-113 Golovkin
Marcos Villegas (Fight Hub TV): 114-114 draw
Michelle Rosado (Raging Babe): 115-113 Canelo
Michelle Joy Phelps (Behind the Gloves): 115-113 Golovkin
Lennox Lewis: Golovkin won by 2 rounds
Fight Nights: 115-113 Golovkin
Michael Woods (NYFights.com): two point edge for Golovkin
Dieter Kurtenbach (San Jose Mercury News and the East Bay Times): Golovkin won by 3 rounds
Rafael G (the Fight City): 116-112 Golovkin
34 for GGG, 2 for Canelo, 15 for Draw
Everyone must be blind huh?
Had no idea there was so much support for a GGG win in the rematch, I thought a draw would be fair and he was straight up robbed in the first.Comment
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Have to Respectfully Disagree with you man. For me there is no possible way to give Canelo 7 rounds. I haven’t watched the fight in years So I might not be 100% accurate.
Lara started off strong using his movement to take the first 3-4 rounds leaving Canelo so frustrated he actually bull rushes Lara because he had absolutely no answer at all.
Canelo lands a Monster shot on Lara I want to say round 5 , Hurts Lara and Canelo is able to grab about 3 rounds while Lara is recovering
Once Lara is able to shake it off and get his sh.it together , he goes back to winning the rounds. I think Showtime had it 9-3 for Lara at worst it was 8-4.
After Canelo landed that Hammer he didn’t land anything meaningful again ,
I’ve never seen a fight and still haven’t seen another fight where the fighter was given rounds because of so called body shots that were mostly blocked like Canelo was while Lara was consistently landing
I know this isn’t how you judge who won but look at Canelo after the fight , He’s totally dejected , Head down knowing he lost his corner telling him to not look like he lost.
Gets gifted a decision then uses the excuse every fighter uses when they didn’t do sh.it , Oh Lara ran and the media / fans runs with it.
Just my opinion
Lara got jobbed worse then GolovkinComment
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I think it was like 80% of people and media believed GGG won convincingly.
The 2nd around it was like 60%.
I could have seen GGG win or draw the 2nd fight but still didnt think Canelo did enough to win. Sure Canelo came forward but narrative doesnt and shouldnt dictate who wins a fight.
First fight was a straight up robbery especially with that 118-110 card.Comment
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Even on this site the majority of people felt GGG won. Its consistent on media cards, boxing website polls, etc.
I think it was like 80% of people and media believed GGG won convincingly.
The 2nd around it was like 60%.
I could have seen GGG win or draw the 2nd fight but still didnt think Canelo did enough to win. Sure Canelo came forward but narrative doesnt and shouldnt dictate who wins a fight.
First fight was a straight up robbery especially with that 118-110 card.
So in the second, because it was closer than the first and Canelo was coming forward I kinda just assumed he would get it.
Where as if there had been no first fight I probably just would have thought close fight, maybe draw maybe GGG.Comment
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well gee, I dont know you sarcastic ***ing tard.
Was were the judges score cards an accurate representation to you or not?Comment
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