Is 115-113x2 and 114-114 dominate?

[Boxing_1013]

If you score the 2nd fight a 7-5 towards GGG, you were not scoring the fight objectively. Canelo dominated the fight 8-4. Only because GGG hid behind the jab (and badly missed all fight) doesn’t mean he was dominant.

Teddy Atlas is not a fan of GGG at all really...hasn't had him in his top ten pfp in years I believe...he picked Canelo to win the 2nd fight.

He scored the fight 8-3-1 for GGG...gotta score the jab too man

[Boxing_1013]

This is the only place where the majority think Canelo not only won but dominated

In the real World the majority realizes Golovkin won both fights.

The scored cards couldn’t be like the first fight which were borderline criminal , the cards were still low-Key manipulated for the Rematch, All 3 Judges gave Canelo the first 6/8-9 rounds basically guaranteeing at least a draw and most likely a W with 3-4 rounds to still to go

Canelos 4 Butchered Scoredcards Lara / Mayweather /Golovkin 2x Moretti was the Judge in everyone

In every one of those fights Moretti gives the 12th rd to Canelo ( Determining the outcome for Lara & Golovkin 2 115-113 both times )

Gave Canelo 3 of the last 4 rounds against Maywesther

Somehow Gave Canelo 5 of the last 6 rounds against Lara giving Canelo the win 115-113

Mayweather/Lara/Golovkin all judged the same.

1 Judge didn’t watch the fight and scored so ridiculous for Canelo looks like it was filled out before the fight 118-112/117-111/ 114-114
Second Judge ensures Canelo gets all the rounds in the 2nd half as humanly possible even if getting shalacked to steal a win (5-1 Lara ) earn a undeserved draw (4-2 Golovkin ) Or at least make the fight look close if getting shutout ( 3-3 Mayweather )

3rd Judge scores what usually would be scored a 117-113/116-112 type of fight into a razor thin 115-113 for Opponet or in the case of Mayweather a 119-109 score into a 117-111 ( Again Most being awarded in the 2nd half )


Canelo fans on here know he didn’t win but it’s easier to lie and convince yourself he deserved the W when you say he dominated instead of admitting Canelo just scrapped by a W by the thinnest of margins which for a Figjter whos never had a score go against him in his entire career should be a clear indication he lost

In general I agree with your post...I would just say that when I scored Lara-Canelo, I gave Canelo the last 4 rounds as well, to get him a 7-5 win on my card..and Lara is one of my favorites to watch in this era.

Canelo raised his level and Lara did what he does a lot imo...he coasted too much and let his opponent into it more than he should have.

[R_Walken]

In general I agree with your post...I would just say that when I scored Lara-Canelo, I gave Canelo the last 4 rounds as well, to get him a 7-5 win on my card..and Lara is one of my favorites to watch in this era.

Canelo raised his level and Lara did what he does a lot imo...he coasted too much and let his opponent into it more than he should have.

Have to Respectfully Disagree with you man. For me there is no possible way to give Canelo 7 rounds. I haven’t watched the fight in years So I might not be 100% accurate.

Lara started off strong using his movement to take the first 3-4 rounds leaving Canelo so frustrated he actually bull rushes Lara because he had absolutely no answer at all.

Canelo lands a Monster shot on Lara I want to say round 5 , Hurts Lara and Canelo is able to grab about 3 rounds while Lara is recovering

Once Lara is able to shake it off and get his sh.it together , he goes back to winning the rounds. I think Showtime had it 9-3 for Lara at worst it was 8-4.

After Canelo landed that Hammer he didn’t land anything meaningful again ,

I’ve never seen a fight and still haven’t seen another fight where the fighter was given rounds because of so called body shots that were mostly blocked like Canelo was while Lara was consistently landing

I know this isn’t how you judge who won but look at Canelo after the fight , He’s totally dejected , Head down knowing he lost his corner telling him to not look like he lost.

Gets gifted a decision then uses the excuse every fighter uses when they didn’t do sh.it , Oh Lara ran and the media / fans runs with it.

Just my opinion
Lara got jobbed worse then Golovkin

[HewJohnson]

If anybody watches UFC, there’s an IG page that scores fights with a much more accurate system.
It’s an improved 10-9 system.

So instead of 10-9, they’ll score it 9.72 vs 9.28, which would give a +.24 score for said fighter in said round. So it scores the rounds 10-9, but also by scoring just how much of the round was won.

In the end, they’ll tally up who has most overall points awarded, rather than who “won” each round.

So an example would be if a fighter wins 5 rounds but very dominantly, and the other fighter wins 7 rounds but he barely edged each round, then the other fighter who won 5 rds. dominantly would win due to overall points accumulated in comparison to his opponent. It’s a much much more accurate and telling points system.

[KillaMane26]

This means nothing tho...Seeing how incompetent judges can be

[andocom]

The majority of the boxing community had similar scores so let's not act like I'm the one lying.

Can you name a time where all of the media score cards disagreed with the result?

Canelo fans want to act like the media or people have an agenda but in the same breath say things like, Canelo is the A-side, Canelo is so popular, Canelo is the face of boxing.

How can someone with so many fans have a fight scored against them? Would you like to name some examples? I can show you a few examples of favorable score cards for Canelo in Vegas.

Look at the media score cards.

Brian Campbell (CBS sports): 116-112 Golovkin

Dan Rafael (ESPN): 114-114 draw

Stephen A. Smith (ESPN): Golovkin won

Arash Markazi (ESPN): 114-114 draw

Brett Okamoto (ESPN): 114-114 draw

Teddy Atlas - Golovkin won

Salvador Rodríguez (ESPN Mexico): 114-114 draw

Eduardo Lamazón (Televisa): 116-112 Golovkin

Gareth A Davies (The Telegraph): 116-112 Golovkin

Josh Peter (USA Today): 115-113 Golovkin

Sports Illustrated: 114-114 draw

Dylan Hernandez (LA Times): 115-113 Golovkin

Lance Pugmire (La Times): 114-114 draw

BoxingScene: 114-114 draw

Chris Mannix (Yahoo! Sports): 115-113 Golovkin

Kevin Iole (Yahoo! Sports): 114-114 draw

The Guardian: 116-112 Golovkin

Joe DePaolo (Washington Post): 115-113 Golovkin

Mike Coppinger (Ring Magazine): 114-114 draw

Douglass Fischer (Ring Magazine): 114-114 draw

Mike Baca II (Ring Magazine and Undisputed Champion Network): 115-113 Golovkin

Al Bernstein (Showtime Sports): Golovkin won

Sherdog.com: 116-112 Golovkin

Jai Bednall (news.com.au): 115-113 Golovkin

Brian Mazique (Forbes): 114-114 draw

Adam Abramowitz (Ring Magazine and SN Boxing): 115-113 Golovkin

Tom Craze (Bad Left Hook): 116-112 Golovkin

Fraser Coffeen (Bloody Elbow): 115-113 Golovkin

Anton Tabuena (Bloody Elbow): 115-113 Golovkin

The Associated Press: 114-114 draw

Adam Caparell (Complex Sports): 116-112 Golovkin

Bill Simmons (HBO and The Ringer): 114-114 draw

Steven Muehlhausen (Sporting News): 116-112 Golovkin

Andreas Hale (Sporting News): Golovkin won

Graham Houston (Boxing Monthly): Canelo won

Michael Montero (MonteroOnBoxing): 115-113 Golovkin

Matt Christie (Boxing News): 115-114 Golovkin

George Willis (New York Post): 114-114 draw

Gary Melo (SportsNet Canada): Golovkin won

Below The Belt Podcast: 115-113 Golovkin

World Boxing News: 115-113 Golovkin

Jeff Powell (Daily Mail): 116-113 Golovkin

Marcos Villegas (Fight Hub TV): 114-114 draw

Michelle Rosado (Raging Babe): 115-113 Canelo

Michelle Joy Phelps (Behind the Gloves): 115-113 Golovkin

Lennox Lewis: Golovkin won by 2 rounds

Fight Nights: 115-113 Golovkin

Michael Woods (NYFights.com): two point edge for Golovkin

Dieter Kurtenbach (San Jose Mercury News and the East Bay Times): Golovkin won by 3 rounds

Rafael G (the Fight City): 116-112 Golovkin

34 for GGG, 2 for Canelo, 15 for Draw

Everyone must be blind huh?

Were those really the way people scored the second fight?

Had no idea there was so much support for a GGG win in the rematch, I thought a draw would be fair and he was straight up robbed in the first.

[Boxing_1013]

Have to Respectfully Disagree with you man. For me there is no possible way to give Canelo 7 rounds. I haven’t watched the fight in years So I might not be 100% accurate.

Lara started off strong using his movement to take the first 3-4 rounds leaving Canelo so frustrated he actually bull rushes Lara because he had absolutely no answer at all.

Canelo lands a Monster shot on Lara I want to say round 5 , Hurts Lara and Canelo is able to grab about 3 rounds while Lara is recovering

Once Lara is able to shake it off and get his sh.it together , he goes back to winning the rounds. I think Showtime had it 9-3 for Lara at worst it was 8-4.

After Canelo landed that Hammer he didn’t land anything meaningful again ,

I’ve never seen a fight and still haven’t seen another fight where the fighter was given rounds because of so called body shots that were mostly blocked like Canelo was while Lara was consistently landing

I know this isn’t how you judge who won but look at Canelo after the fight , He’s totally dejected , Head down knowing he lost his corner telling him to not look like he lost.

Gets gifted a decision then uses the excuse every fighter uses when they didn’t do sh.it , Oh Lara ran and the media / fans runs with it.

Just my opinion
Lara got jobbed worse then Golovkin

I'll have to watch it again sometime...only watched it once and scored it.

[R-Hand Southpaw]

Were those really the way people scored the second fight?

Had no idea there was so much support for a GGG win in the rematch, I thought a draw would be fair and he was straight up robbed in the first.

Even on this site the majority of people felt GGG won. Its consistent on media cards, boxing website polls, etc.

I think it was like 80% of people and media believed GGG won convincingly.

The 2nd around it was like 60%.

I could have seen GGG win or draw the 2nd fight but still didnt think Canelo did enough to win. Sure Canelo came forward but narrative doesnt and shouldnt dictate who wins a fight.

First fight was a straight up robbery especially with that 118-110 card.

[andocom]

Even on this site the majority of people felt GGG won. Its consistent on media cards, boxing website polls, etc.

I think it was like 80% of people and media believed GGG won convincingly.

The 2nd around it was like 60%.

I could have seen GGG win or draw the 2nd fight but still didnt think Canelo did enough to win. Sure Canelo came forward but narrative doesnt and shouldnt dictate who wins a fight.

First fight was a straight up robbery especially with that 118-110 card.

The more I think about the second fight the more I think the scoring of the first tainted it even for me. I find I always want the boxer who I perceive to have been robbed to win the rematch.

So in the second, because it was closer than the first and Canelo was coming forward I kinda just assumed he would get it.

Where as if there had been no first fight I probably just would have thought close fight, maybe draw maybe GGG.

[elfag]

Just asking for a friend because so many people here seems to think it is.

Anyone have any other examples of score cards like this that were dominant performances?

well gee, I dont know you sarcastic ***ing tard.

Was were the judges score cards an accurate representation to you or not?