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  • #31
    Originally posted by KingGilgamesh View Post
    He followed to make more money and under obligation to DAZN, their new (fight-by fight) broadcast partners in the US. Joshua used to be with Showtime. I find it amusing, I legit think the average AJ fan is an absolute dumbass. His image is massively contrived and meant to be sold to the typical jackass casual low information EPL viewer. This is why Eddie Hearn won't dare compromise his Sky contract in a thousand years. Joshua has shown next to no willingness to dance with the biggest hitters in the division. He will stay fighting half decent B-level talent because his idiot support base eat it up...though with the sheer impressiveness of Fury's win even those days might be numbered.

    And it should be obvious that they have no intention of fighting Fury any time soon. Wilder enacting his rematch clause was a daft decision on his part and I'm pissed because, if he didn't, I would have gotten a chance to see Eddie squirm and talk out of both sides of his mouth. Hearn was praying Wilder would enact that clause as it buys his golden goose a little more time. Is it a surprise to anyone that he literally announced the Pulev fight a ****ing day after confirmation of Wilder's rematch clause enactment came in? He has no intention of an undisputed anytime soon. Hearn is a *****, he's pussified Joshua too. He has never gambled once with any of his top talent.
    Pretty sure bob already said the winner of wilder fury 3 will be facing whyte already

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    • #32
      Originally posted by P to the J View Post
      Agreed.

      And if anyone was in any doubt this is precisely why the undisputed hasn’t been crowned yet. Every single one of these promoters are actively hampering the process of unification regardless of their remarks to the contrary.

      Protecting their business interests first and putting the consumer second; which you’d expect but anyone engaging in tribalism in relation to promotional companies needs a lobotomy; they do NOT care about fans.
      I'd agree but promoting a undisputed title holder would earn a LOT more money than a unified and separate single champion.

      Unless that single champion is a huge ticket seller.

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      • #33
        Originally posted by KingGilgamesh View Post
        He followed to make more money and under obligation to DAZN, their new (fight-by fight) broadcast partners in the US. Joshua used to be with Showtime. I find it amusing, I legit think the average AJ fan is an absolute dumbass. His image is massively contrived and meant to be sold to the typical jackass casual low information EPL viewer. This is why Eddie Hearn won't dare compromise his Sky contract in a thousand years. Joshua has shown next to no willingness to dance with the biggest hitters in the division. He will stay fighting half decent B-level talent because his idiot support base eat it up...though with the sheer impressiveness of Fury's win even those days might be numbered.

        And it should be obvious that they have no intention of fighting Fury any time soon. Wilder enacting his rematch clause was a daft decision on his part and I'm pissed because, if he didn't, I would have gotten a chance to see Eddie squirm and talk out of both sides of his mouth. Hearn was praying Wilder would enact that clause as it buys his golden goose a little more time. Is it a surprise to anyone that he literally announced the Pulev fight a ****ing day after confirmation of Wilder's rematch clause enactment came in? He has no intention of an undisputed anytime soon. Hearn is a *****, he's pussified Joshua too. He has never gambled once with any of his top talent.
        Shut up, you bellend.

        I don’t know why you incoherent idiots with low IQ always think you have an opinion on everything with your impaired brain.

        Talk less and listen more. Fccking waste of semen.

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        • #34
          Originally posted by denium View Post
          Sorry lads but i disagree, there's no buzz around AJ anymore, yet everyone at work and on the street are talking about Fury. I think AJ's loss to Ruiz really hurt him popularity wise.

          And of course Fury is more popular and well known worldwide, that isn't even up for discussion.
          Buzz and popularity are two different things. Buzz is a temporary thing that happens in moment and fizzle out. Popularity deals with reach and it’s built over a long period of time. Josh is by far the most popular British boxer in history...Fury isn’t even close.

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          • #35
            Originally posted by denium View Post
            Joshua should've dared to be great and taken a cut. According to Hearn, Wilder is a bum anyway and AJ would've smashed him in 2 rounds.
            Dared to be great by paying a ransom to the bum who isn’t worth shyt? No one with a high business IQ would do that.

            Wilder is useless without the belt and there’s no point overpaying the bum thus making him rich.

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            • #36
              Originally posted by Straightener View Post
              Pretty sure bob already said the winner of wilder fury 3 will be facing whyte already
              An undisputed fight will supercede that, if both opponents wanted it badly enough. The same happened with Lewis and Holyfield, after the controversial first fight they marched straight back into a rematch with no questions asked. Money has superceded everything, which is fine, I only wish Hearn and Joshua didn't go around pretending they had any interest in undisputed. For all the **** Wilder gets (**** knows why) I can guaran-damn-tee that if he was holding the WBC and Fury was holding the rest of the belts, we would of had an undisputed champion ages ago.

              Its also why I, despite being British, can NEVER get behind British boxing as a whole. Chock full of way too many frauds who seem intent on catering to crowds who will watch anything with a local fighter on the card over actual decent fights. Fury is an anomaly on that front, hence why we have seen him go to both Germany and the US multiple times to compete. We're legit justifying Joshua v Pulev??? Whyte v ****ing tired ass Povetkin? Who could barely muster a draw against a ****ing blown up cruiserweight?? Who clearly had no intention of fighting Ruiz whilst trying to con the public into believing otherwise? How many top flight Brits can say they have done the same as Fury? Against elite opposition??? All the heavyweight belts being in the UK is likely going to have the opposite effect, its going to push back the heavyweight scene even further. Both Arum and Haymon have at least shown that they can negotiate and co-host heavy hitting fights if the prize is big enough. I just doubt Hearn can do the same.
              Last edited by KingGilgamesh; 03-06-2020, 06:23 AM.

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              • #37
                This could easily have been avoided simply by Joshua fighting 3 times this year....... no one to blame but themselves and their lack of activity.

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                • #38
                  Originally posted by Vinnykin View Post
                  This could easily have been avoided simply by Joshua fighting 3 times this year....... no one to blame but themselves and their lack of activity.
                  How many top fighters fight three times a year?

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                  • #39
                    Originally posted by CraigM View Post
                    How many top fighters fight three times a year?
                    If he wants to fight twice a year when he's a unified champion that's his business...... just don't be surprised when mandatories pile up.

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                    • #40
                      Originally posted by BangEM View Post
                      Dared to be great by paying a ransom to the bum who isn’t worth shyt? No one with a high business IQ would do that.

                      Wilder is useless without the belt and there’s no point overpaying the bum thus making him rich.
                      But then, through the other side of your mouth, you will claim Wilder was offered $120m to fight Joshua? Which is it? Is Wilder too much of a bum to offered big money or is he too scared to take the "best offers he's ever received"?

                      TBH, the truth is simply what it has always been. Joshua has had zero intention of fighting Wilder, ever. Scared ****less of the guy. And I don't know why. Because, in truth, I dont think Wilder is all that confident on his chances with Joshua either. I legit think Wilder has felt that Joshua would pose more of a threat to him than Fury would, with last Saturday proving that theory to be devastatingly incorrect. Wilder has always seemed supremely confident about every fighter he's taken on except for Joshua. Barry Hearn gave the game away, as senile old boomers always do, the earliest they felt "ready" for Wilder would have been 2020. Hence why the contract (drafted by DAZN and Skipper, NOT Hearn...who was told to keep out of said negotiations due to the the ****ty time they had trying to make fights with him) was for 3/4 fights and would have meant that Wilder would have been fighting Joshua this year at the earliest.

                      What the **** is a "high business IQ"??? LOL, Jesus. Look at Joshua's corporate partners. ****ing JD Sports, Underarmour, Bulk Powders, Beats...everything about the dude's image is catered and coiffured for the mainstream, Instagram using, Love Island watching, urban dwelling, British millennial idiot. And then wheel in the low information football fans through Sky Sports News propaganda machine whilst getting a steady boost from the BBC who are always keen to help promote British Olympic talent (which is fair TBH). He was never about achieving "greatness", it was always an exercise in sporting corporotization. In typical fashion they will milk Joshua for every penny before even daring to put him in with genuine opposition. The last time they did that was 2017, against a losing champion with 16 months out of the ring whilst coming in an as underdog and even that fight was a close call.

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