Why do people say Canelo and Floyd were taking risks

[Boxing_1013]

They fight all of their fights in their (adopted) hometown of Vegas...they are mega A-sides, who will know which fighters they can at least go 12 rounds with and not get KOed, and can control other terms such as weight/rehydration clauses if needed.

They know that all they have to do is go 12 rounds in Vegas with anyone, and they will get the win, or at worst a draw, if it is at all close.

I know some will take that as me hating on them, but I'm really not...they are both great fighters and 2 of the best of the last couple decades in my opinion.

But neither really took a tremendous amount of risky fights...and as the mega A-side, you don't really need to, and quite frankly, shouldn't...as doing so is kind of ****** money-wise.

But taking risks...would be Floyd fighting Pac in the Phillipines or Canelo fighting UK guys in the UK or GGG in Kazakstan...obviously they don't need to do that, and the money is better in Vegas...no one is arguing that.

But it is just as obvious that what they did/are doing for most of their careers would not be defined as taking risks.

Taking on your opponent in his backyard or neutral, especially if it is 'the' opponent that everyone wants to see at that time, is taking a risk...Fury vs Wlad, Fury vs Wilder...Usyk vs everyone...Ali vs Frazier...Ali vs Foreman.

Sell the Canelo-BJS fight as Canelo fighting yet another good or great fighter in his career...but also let's be real that once again he will have almost every advantage in his favor, all he has to do is go 12 and be a little competitive and he will win, and that even the opponent isn't necessarily in fine form/past due/will be hindered with weight issues etc.

I know this post will get some agitated but that's not the point...it's just tiresome seeing people on a real boxing forum trying to say those types of fights are risk-taking when what they are is risk-limiting and money-gathering.

[MulaKO]

They fight all of their fights in their (adopted) hometown of Vegas...they are mega A-sides, who will know which fighters they can at least go 12 rounds with and not get KOed, and can control other terms such as weight/rehydration clauses if needed.

They know that all they have to do is go 12 rounds in Vegas with anyone, and they will get the win, or at worst a draw, if it is at all close.

I know some will take that as me hating on them, but I'm really not...they are both great fighters and 2 of the best of the last couple decades in my opinion.

But neither really took a tremendous amount of risky fights...and as the mega A-side, you don't really need to, and quite frankly, shouldn't...as doing so is kind of ****** money-wise.

But taking risks...would be Floyd fighting Pac in the Phillipines or Canelo fighting UK guys in the UK or GGG in Kazakstan...obviously they don't need to do that, and the money is better in Vegas...no one is arguing that.

But it is just as obvious that what they did/are doing for most of their careers would not be defined as taking risks.

Taking on your opponent in his backyard or neutral, especially if it is 'the' opponent that everyone wants to see at that time, is taking a risk...Fury vs Wlad, Fury vs Wilder...Usyk vs everyone...Ali vs Frazier...Ali vs Foreman.

Sell the Canelo-BJS fight as Canelo fighting yet another good or great fighter in his career...but also let's be real that once again he will have almost every advantage in his favor, all he has to do is go 12 and be a little competitive and he will win, and that even the opponent isn't necessarily in fine form/past due/will be hindered with weight issues etc.

I know this post will get some agitated but that's not the point...it's just tiresome seeing people on a real boxing forum trying to say those types of fights are risk-taking when what they are is risk-limiting and money-gathering.

Good post
And I believe you are being sincere but brother take your shirt off , put your dukes up and get ready for what’s coming
Good luck , you just took a wicked chit on sacred ground

Give me ten minutes just wanna get some wings cooking and a couple of beverages

Fight of the year right here baby

Ok go .

[Boxing_1013]

Good post
And I believe you are being sincere but brother take your shirt off , put your dukes up and get ready for what’s coming
Good luck , you just took a wicked chit on sacred ground

Give me ten minutes just wanna get some wings cooking and a couple of beverages

Fight of the year right here baby

Ok go .

Lol thanks bro...hey I just call sh.it like I see it so I have no issue with speaking my mind...if I'm wrong I'm wrong but I don't think I am, not here anyway

[MulaKO]

Lol thanks bro...hey I just call sh.it like I see it so I have no issue with speaking my mind...if I'm wrong I'm wrong but I don't think I am, not here anyway

I’m actually impressed your thread hasn’t ballooned to 300 hits yet

You one tough sob lol

[NearHypnos]

Why would Floyd fight Pacquiao in a third world country where the man holds office... He was America’s boxing cash cow. Trying to make hundreds of millions by fighting in a 3rd world country at noon American time? Just for the sake of “risk”? That’s a terrible financial move and downright silly.

Kazakhstan? Really? Bjs in the UK? A Mexican on 5 de mayo.... in england? Come on man. Floyd EARNED Vegas as his “hometown” he made it. Canelo isnt even American and has done the same.

It’s not the way the world works. These men are gladiators who’ve earned their prestige. Floyd came in at the tailend of an era at WW, not his fault. He fought a few fierce guys at the lower weights though and earned his stripes.

Canelo fought Floyd at like 22 years old or whatever. Fought GGG, top 3 p4p and one of the most prolific offensive forces who he was supposed to not see the final bell against. He fought him twice. Kovalev while not the fighter he once was, is at 75 and a fine fighter. No longer the best at 75 but he was a legitimate champ who reclaimed from a legitimate fighter. Canelo is now fighting the man people said he likely would never because he stylistically was the worst for especially considering bjs size.

As green as Canelo was and weight cut and all that not withstanding, Canelo was a huge risk for Floyd. Calculated, but it was indeed risky.

These guys arent fighting to do their challengers a favor. Theyre the A side because they win against winners.

Why arent canelo and bjs fighting in the UK? Because for years now Canelo hasnt fought a man who wasnt a world champion. Because in the last 6-7 years, Canelo has on more than one occasion been looking across the ring to a man who has been on p4p lists at some point.

Floyd is retired. Let it go with him.

Canelo is currently the best fighter who is also consistently fighting the highest quality opposition.

Who the f uck fights in Ukraine?

Fury and Wilder fought in Vegas...because obviously. And Fury had more fans.

You can just come out and say you dont like Floyd and Canelo. Vegas is supposed to be more or less neutral... but you cant fault guys for having a history of excellence on the brightest stage

[BoomBapTrap]

GGG beat Canelo the first time.
2nd time was a draw. Canelo maybe edged it. PAC beat Mayweather. Floyd didn’t do enough to win in my book.
Just didn’t let them hands go man.
You gotta engage Floyd!

Canelo has taken a very Floyd-esque blueprint for success. Although Canelo is still a bad arse ese.

[Boxing_1013]

Why would Floyd fight Pacquiao in a third world country where the man holds office... He was America’s boxing cash cow. Trying to make hundreds of millions by fighting in a 3rd world country at noon American time? Just for the sake of “risk”? That’s a terrible financial move and downright silly.

Kazakhstan? Really? Bjs in the UK? A Mexican on 5 de mayo.... in england? Come on man. Floyd EARNED Vegas as his “hometown” he made it. Canelo isnt even American and has done the same.

It’s not the way the world works. These men are gladiators who’ve earned their prestige. Floyd came in at the tailend of an era at WW, not his fault. He fought a few fierce guys at the lower weights though and earned his stripes.

Canelo fought Floyd at like 22 years old or whatever. Fought GGG, top 3 p4p and one of the most prolific offensive forces who he was supposed to not see the final bell against. He fought him twice. Kovalev while not the fighter he once was, is at 75 and a fine fighter. No longer the best at 75 but he was a legitimate champ who reclaimed from a legitimate fighter. Canelo is now fighting the man people said he likely would never because he stylistically was the worst for especially considering bjs size.

As green as Canelo was and weight cut and all that not withstanding, Canelo was a huge risk for Floyd. Calculated, but it was indeed risky.

These guys arent fighting to do their challengers a favor. Theyre the A side because they win against winners.

Why arent canelo and bjs fighting in the UK? Because for years now Canelo hasnt fought a man who wasnt a world champion. Because in the last 6-7 years, Canelo has on more than one occasion been looking across the ring to a man who has been on p4p lists at some point.

Floyd is retired. Let it go with him.

Canelo is currently the best fighter who is also consistently fighting the highest quality opposition.

Who the f uck fights in Ukraine?

Fury and Wilder fought in Vegas...because obviously. And Fury had more fans.

You can just come out and say you dont like Floyd and Canelo. Vegas is supposed to be more or less neutral... but you cant fault guys for having a history of excellence on the brightest stage

Thanks for the reply...and except for the part I bolded at the end of your reply...I think we are pretty much saying the same things.

That they are smart for doing what they are doing...and they have more or less earned it or deserve it...but also what does 'earn' or 'deserve' even mean anyway...but they are in the A-side position and playing that role well.

Just don't try and really sell it as taking risks...because it isn't...often times taking risks and making the most money don't really line up, as we both pointed out.

And I don't really dislike either Floyd or Canelo...they are great fighters and prove it every time out...but seeing the 'he is taking so much risk' stuff all the time is just nauseating man.

I am just honestly surprised that on a real boxing forum people really try and sell it as those guys taking big risks in fights...that is not to say they take no risk, or that they have never taken a big risk in a fight.

But 9/10 of their fights, certainly for Canelo and definitely for Floyd in his Money May days...were basically like 90% in their favor, after you factor in opponent selection, venue, weight etc.

Could say the same thing about AJ with his fights if you want to..same applies to him really.

[QueensburyRules]

They fight all of their fights in their (adopted) hometown of Vegas...they are mega A-sides, who will know which fighters they can at least go 12 rounds with and not get KOed, and can control other terms such as weight/rehydration clauses if needed.

They know that all they have to do is go 12 rounds in Vegas with anyone, and they will get the win, or at worst a draw, if it is at all close.

I know some will take that as me hating on them, but I'm really not...they are both great fighters and 2 of the best of the last couple decades in my opinion.

But neither really took a tremendous amount of risky fights...and as the mega A-side, you don't really need to, and quite frankly, shouldn't...as doing so is kind of ****** money-wise.

But taking risks...would be Floyd fighting Pac in the Phillipines or Canelo fighting UK guys in the UK or GGG in Kazakstan...obviously they don't need to do that, and the money is better in Vegas...no one is arguing that.

But it is just as obvious that what they did/are doing for most of their careers would not be defined as taking risks.

Taking on your opponent in his backyard or neutral, especially if it is 'the' opponent that everyone wants to see at that time, is taking a risk...Fury vs Wlad, Fury vs Wilder...Usyk vs everyone...Ali vs Frazier...Ali vs Foreman.

Sell the Canelo-BJS fight as Canelo fighting yet another good or great fighter in his career...but also let's be real that once again he will have almost every advantage in his favor, all he has to do is go 12 and be a little competitive and he will win, and that even the opponent isn't necessarily in fine form/past due/will be hindered with weight issues etc.

I know this post will get some agitated but that's not the point...it's just tiresome seeing people on a real boxing forum trying to say those types of fights are risk-taking when what they are is risk-limiting and money-gathering.

- -U still moaning over Canelo more than a bit unbecoming.

Need a proper Sissyboy to attach U attentions to.

[Boxing_1013]

- -U still moaning over Canelo more than a bit unbecoming.

Need a proper Sissyboy to attach U attentions to.

Where are you from bro?

[Thuglife Nelo]

or Canelo fighting UK guys in the UK or GGG in Kazakstan...obviously they don't need to

Was waiting for you to mention GGG!

Garett Davies: “Would you want to fight for Undisputed with BJS in Kazakhstan for all the belts?”

GGG: “Absolutely. 100%”

-Post Fight Conference, Brook Win