Comments Thread For: Hearn: Ruiz, On Point, Would Absoutely Brutalize Deontay Wilder

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  • 4truth
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    #11
    Originally posted by ThunderFists
    No he would not. Just because he brutalized aj doesnt mean he would wilder. Ruiz is no fury. Ruiz doesnt use his weight effectively to lean or clinch or fight on the inside etc
    Ruiz has better fundamentals than Joshua and Joshua has it over Wilder. Do the math.

    As long as Ruiz is standing, he’s beating Wilder up. I don’t think Wilder has the ability to just stay out of reach as Joshua did.

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    • Squared.Circle
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      #12
      Wilder simply cannot control the distance. He can’t use his height and reach to his advantage as he’s proved on multiple occasions and he’s absolutely terrible fighting on the back foot. If a 6’4 non puncher like Molina can hurt Wilder then Ruiz would take his chin off. All those saying “just because Fury beat him blah blah blah”...no, just no lol many people have thought for a long time that Wilder gets outboxed and/or stopped by any top heavyweight, as the two genuinely live opponents he’s faced (Ortiz and Fury) have quite clearly demonstrated. Wilder has a punchers chance against these top guys, and that is literally it.

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      • Lopez_Boxing
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        #13
        Originally posted by 4truth
        Ruiz has better fundamentals than Joshua and Joshua has it over Wilder. Do the math.

        As long as Ruiz is standing, he’s beating Wilder up. I don’t think Wilder has the ability to just stay out of reach as Joshua did.
        What? That's how wilder fights. Staying on the outside. Wilder doesn't mix it up

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        • sanapuki
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          #14
          Fury got found out by the first top-level fighter he has fought. And now the blueprint is there, even that air of invincibility is gone. Expect more beatings.

          I would say Ruiz has slow feet, but he could definitely slip them shots to make his way into range.

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          • Zelda
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            #15
            Originally posted by 4truth
            Ruiz has better fundamentals than Joshua and Joshua has it over Wilder. Do the math.

            As long as Ruiz is standing, he’s beating Wilder up. I don’t think Wilder has the ability to just stay out of reach as Joshua did.
            Styles make fights.

            Joshua was stiff and standing in front of Ruiz. In the second fight, Ruiz couldn't corner AJ and trade. Wilder has a very different style and is much more agile than Joshua. Wilder will try to fight at long range and use his right hand.

            Can Ruiz close the gap and through combinations at Wilder? Fury did it...he closed the gap and fought inside but he also used dirty tactics as in manhandling Wilder. It was somewhat similar to what Holyfield did with Tyson, but in both cases, they were taller than their opponents. They used the reach advantage to keep the other at bay. And when they closed the gap, used holding tactics. However, in doing so they could hold their smaller opponents, put weight on them, and deny them movement and balance.

            Ruiz cannot do that. Sure, he can use Mike Tyson tactics to charge in and throw combinations (body + uppercut, hook) or Frazier tactics to look for a gazelle hook but we haven't seen him do that yet. Nor have we seen how Wilder will respond to that, him being fairly agile.

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            • Liondw
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              #16
              Ruiz may be able to beat Wilder, but a Ruiz that trains in the gym and not permanently closed to the refrigerator and McDonalds. Wilder ain't that hard to beat, but of course an opponent has to be wary of his right hand. Fury has the fundamentals and a lot of skill.

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              • Monty Fisto
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                #17
                Boxing at this level is rarely as simple as saying this fighter would definitely beat this boxer. It's why we have the actual fights to find out. Yes, Ruiz is a pressure fighter and Wilder has shown he is not comfortable at all when under pressure, but Ruiz is also not that difficult to hit and Wilder could therefore send him to sleep... Or maybe Ruiz's chin would stand up to it. We don't know! I know they're not even looking at this fight, but it would be one I'd be interested in.

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                • NachoMan
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                  #18
                  Good grief. Wilder ices an in-shape Ruiz inside of 4 rounds.

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                  • RJJ-94-02=GOAT
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                    #19
                    Embarrassing...

                    Ruiz is a C level guy, we all know what Wilder does to that level of competition.

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                    • boxinggod101
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                      #20
                      I could see Ruiz face down KOd. Now people will.forget about Wilder right hand cause Fury beat him up. Ruiz ain't no Fury

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