People are dancing on Wilder’s grave, I’m neither impressed nor convinced...

[buddyr]

What chameleon are you , you haven’t been on the forum with that screen name , for years ? You lot up and left Wilder with the he wasn’t that good and that was the plan .

Back to the subject , the only guy I knew not to take on everyone was Wilder ? If he did we would have got an undisputed fight in 2018 ?.Ha

Thread posted by ME in 2018

https://www.boxingscene.com/forums/showthread.php?t=789769

[Madison Boxing]

Nah the blueprints out there and the fear factor has gone. He still has a punchers chance in fights but a lot of fighters will just get stuck into him now and bully him

[Tutsa]

He has only him self to blame from the excuses to pointing fingers at the two guys that saved him MB and Bayless . A guy spends 11 years with you and you treat him like trash throwing him out the locker room . Disgusting this guy should never be called champ !

[SN!PER]

And it was a bit satisfying to me to see Wilder finally beaten and with a style I particularly admire (Fury came forward and frustrated him much like a bigger version of B-Hop or Ward).

As a fan of B-Hop, I'd like your opinion on something.

In round 6 of the Bernard Hopkins rematch against Roy Jones Jr., he was given up to 5 minutes of recovery time when Roy hit him with a rabbit punch.

In round 3 of Wilder vs. Fury II, Fury landed a hard punch to the back of Wilder's head that stunned him badly. Wilder was given an eight count.

Do you agree with the referee's decision to give Wilder no recovery time?

[Legends456]

As a fan of B-Hop, I'd like your opinion on something.

In round 6 of the Bernard Hopkins rematch against Roy Jones Jr., he was given up to 5 minutes of recovery time when Roy hit him with a rabbit punch.

In round 3 of Wilder vs. Fury II, Fury landed a hard punch to the back of Wilder's head that stunned him badly. Wilder was given an eight count.

Do you agree with the referee's decision to give Wilder no recovery time?

Thanks for your question!

As a B-Hop fan to a fellow B-Hop fan... but still being objective, I feel that the punch RJJ landed was very obvious, he was clinching/holding him facing away from him and so he never saw it coming, Etc.

It was right that he got the recovery time.

In the case of the first knockdown in Wilder/Fury II, I feel it was a little more difficult to judge and not as clear.

Two key factors:
-Fury’s massive hands cover a lot of territory
-Wilder suddenly jerked his head to the side which exposed the back portion of his head as the shot landed (I think he lost his footing just a bit as the shot came in, possibly explaining the erratic movement — I am not sure)

Either way, I’d have to say it didn’t look as blatant a rabbit punch to me as B-Hop/RJJ. Although Fury did throw some dirty punches on the break, that knockdown one I actually think he was aiming nearer the ear/behind the ear when he threw it and looked more circumstantial to me.

Wilder was on shaky legs after that equilibrium shot (which IMO was a bit of a glancer, caught him in the ear area as he rotated his head away, the vacuum which may have ruptured his eardrum, and the follow through of the punch carried over to the back of his skull, much like those old fashioned stamps that you can sort of roll across a piece of paper). Either way that was a dangerous shot, Wilder was fortunate it wasn’t a harder puncher who threw it cause shots like that can be deadly.

I feel the ref did okay to not do anything, But it’s subjective and a different referee or even the same referee on a different day may have called it a rabbit punch and given Wilder recovery time.

I was a bit disappointed that such a big moment of the fight was controversial and I knew it as soon as I saw it, either way, wished it hadn’t been such an iffy shot. With all the factors I mentioned above, I think it’s a bit like NFL, when the ruling on the field stands. Same thing here, probably didn’t look as much like a rabbit punch to the ref in real time as he didn’t have the benefit of slow motion replay from all kinds of angles, like we do after the fight.

[champion4ever]

With that type of power one can never count Deontay Wilder out of any bout.

[Legends456]

As a fan of B-Hop, I'd like your opinion on something.

In round 6 of the Bernard Hopkins rematch against Roy Jones Jr., he was given up to 5 minutes of recovery time when Roy hit him with a rabbit punch.

In round 3 of Wilder vs. Fury II, Fury landed a hard punch to the back of Wilder's head that stunned him badly. Wilder was given an eight count.

Do you agree with the referee's decision to give Wilder no recovery time?

Come to think of it, there was kind of a similar moment when watching the first fight (the draw) where Wilder knocks down Fury the first time it looked like it landed on the back of the head, but in the same way I think Fury ducked his head downward as the punch was coming in, and it caught him on more the back of the head instead of the side...

Just thought of that, interesting how similar thing happened, only reversed. But yeah, I guess I’d say both of those back of the head shots were pretty incidental and I have no problem with them standing (enlighten me if I’m wrong, but I thought the rabbit punch break was for intentional shots where they deduct you a point, like the B-Hop one or Zab v. Mayweather).

Let me clarify though if they are supposed to give a break for incidental/circumstantial rabbit punches then yeah, there is a very good argument Wilder should have gotten a break, and Fury in their first fight as well.

Sorry if I’m sounding like a no-nothing; although my knowledge of boxing history is pretty good and I owe that to my grandpa’s legacy, but I’ve never fought competitively only done gym workouts so my knowledge of the fine points of boxing rules is not the best.

Feel free to call me on it, I won’t mind