Why are older legends hungrier than these "Young Lions?"

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  • TheMyspaceDayz
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    #21
    Originally posted by The Big Dunn
    If it never entered the negotiation phase then you can't price yourself out. What he may have said in no way prevents an offer from being extended. He did what you are supposed to do when you are not the top dog, find ways to get the top guys in the ring to prove his greatness. The theme of this thread is young fighters in this generation not doing the same but instead settling for good paydays against low level comp, something Floyd didn't do.
    Yeah, who is going to extend an offer to someone who is as skilled as Mayweather but has no fans? Not me. Not the next guy. And it makes it even easier to turn down the idea when he’s being unreasonable and lying to everyone about the people he is trying to have dealings with.
    I figured someone who defended Tank Davis would defend Mayweather. Just remembered that as you began resisting what I’m saying. I saw how crazy/unreasonable you got there. No more talk needed, ha. You’re kind of nuts. Good day sir.

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    • The Big Dunn
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      #22
      Originally posted by TheMyspaceDayz
      Yeah, who is going to extend an offer to someone who is as skilled as Mayweather but has no fans? Not me. Not the next guy. And it makes it even easier to turn down the idea when he’s being unreasonable and lying to everyone about the people he is trying to have dealings with.
      I figured someone who defended Tank Davis would defend Mayweather. Just remembered that as you began resisting what I’m saying. I saw how crazy/unreasonable you got there. No more talk needed, ha. You’re kind of nuts. Good day sir.
      Again you can't be unreasonable if you don't get an offer. I also don't think he was lying about anything. He ultimately got ODH and Shane in the ring after they refuse to fight him. These young guys probably need to do the same thing.

      Me posting Tank Davis was innocent until proven guilty isn't unreasonable. I don't know why you or anyone would take that position.

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        #23
        Originally posted by The Big Dunn
        Again you can't be unreasonable if you don't get an offer. I also don't think he was lying about anything. He ultimately got ODH and Shane in the ring after they refuse to fight him. These young guys probably need to do the same thing.

        Me posting Tank Davis was innocent until proven guilty isn't unreasonable. I don't know why you or anyone would take that position.
        Winky Wright wasn't refusing to fight him....

        In 2005, Mayweather called out Winky Wright, the lineal and formerly undisputed 154lbs title holder who had just beaten Felix Trinidad at 160lbs and could point to two wins over Mosely. Wright agreed and within days had his team in the Top Rank (Floyd's promoters at the time) offices hammering out the details.

        The details were hammered out: the bout would be at 154lbs but weigh-ins would be the morning of the bout rather than the day before and Wright would not be allowed to gain more than eight pounds between weighing in and the start of the contest. But Mayweather and Bob Arum suddenly pulled out, demanding changes to the purse-split and other such things until the bout was dead in the water.

        Mayweather was brave to challenge the naturally larger Wright, a man basically in his prime and with a style that would have been awkward for Mayweather. But when you call someone out and agree all of the details, why then suddenly pull out and take on Sharmba Mitchell instead? That's ducking. Whether it was Arum or Mayweather who pulled the plug (Wright's promoter Shaw has blamed both Arum and Mayweather, depending on who was asking) it doesn't matter; it was a duck.

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        • TheMyspaceDayz
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          #24
          Originally posted by The Big Dunn
          Again you can't be unreasonable if you don't get an offer. I also don't think he was lying about anything. He ultimately got ODH and Shane in the ring after they refuse to fight him. These young guys probably need to do the same thing.

          Me posting Tank Davis was innocent until proven guilty isn't unreasonable. I don't know why you or anyone would take that position.

          20+ pages of you trying to convince people they should reserve judgement until Tank has been proven guilty in a court of law tells everyone all they need to know about you. You’ll go to any length, no matter how ridiculous, to defend your guy. I can’t talk to someone like that. I said good day sir

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            #25
            Originally posted by TheMyspaceDayz
            20+ pages of you trying to convince people they should reserve judgement until Tank has been proven guilty in a court of law tells everyone all they need to know about you. You’ll go to any length, no matter how ridiculous, to defend your guy. I can’t talk to someone like that. I said good day sir
            Posting that someone is innocent until proven guilty is hardly going to any length to defend someone. I think all that tells a reasonable person is I put the law ahead of convicting someone in public. If that makes me impossible to communicate with to you or If you disagree with my position or opinion, fine.

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              #26
              Just like most 20 year olds are soy fairies. Generational thing

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