Why are older legends hungrier than these "Young Lions?"

[Thraxox]

When Klitschko lost to Fury he immediately set himself ablaze and exercised his rematch clause because he wanted to kill Fury. When the fight was down because of Furys mental health, Wlad declined several offers of tune ups and threatened to retire if he doesnt get Wilder or Joshua.

Manny Pacquiao after being called ancient, a relic of the past generation, last piece of the previous generation, t-rex arms. He wanted to win more than anyone in that fight to prove to everyone he's not just gonna go down.

But yet we got loads of divisions content on facing bums for a mice payday and we got older legends wishing they had their youth to fight them. The older legends are hungrier tham these guys.

What changed between previous generations?

[deathofaclown]

Money?

When fighters are getting paid 7 figures on PBC or DAZN to fight fringe contenders and factory workers at best..then you get it all too easy coming through the ranks.

Fighters these days can be financially comfortable before they even face decent opposition. Pac and Wlad come from an era where you had to get to a good level and good fights to make money to give you a secure financial life, or at least it wasn’t quite as easy, so they have a different appreciation and knowledge of proving themselves.

[lizard_man]

Al Haymon is what happened

[15 Rounds again]

I think you can draw a line in the sand between boxing attitudes pre and post Mayweather era.

Mayweather was an awesome fighter but also avoided a few risky fights. He put so much emphasis on having no loss, keeping that 0, that he literally changed the boxing scene (no pun).

Back in the day, pre Mayweather, the example set down by the greats was that you fought your best rivals, more often, and if you lost you lost.

There is considerably more media available nowdays, more information accessible to the public, and therefore more influence can be brought upon public opinion. That influence includes building up fights and fighters, and building up fights and fighters means protecting their record.
Fans are hugely influenced by what they are told.
More so now than in previous eras. With Mayweather being so good, and emphasizing his 0 to a media hungry populace, the stage was set for boxing to become the way it is today.

Too much money, too much media, too few proper fights made because of fighters being protected because suddenly now having an L, we are told, means you're irrelevant.

That's bull. I'd still love to see Wilder V Joshua, Joshua V Fury, Whyte V Wilder, Parker V Wilder, Orriz V Joshua, and that is just at hw.

I dislike Wilder as a person, but he's still as dangerous as ever against most guys, and therefore intriguing and exciting. Plus, bad guys can be big draws too. Get over this obsession with zeroes fans, and we will return to more and better matches. In my opinion.

[The Big Dunn]

Money?

When fighters are getting paid 7 figures on PBC or DAZN to fight fringe contenders and factory workers at best..then you get it all too easy coming through the ranks.

Fighters these days can be financially comfortable before they even face decent opposition. Pac and Wlad come from an era where you had to get to a good level and good fights to make money to give you a secure financial life, or at least it wasn’t quite as easy, so they have a different appreciation and knowledge of proving themselves.

This. The exclusive network deals means that networks pay fighters to perform rather than in previous generations when you got paid more for the better fights.

Remember the earliest boxing video games-you got paid more as you fought better guys. Right now, Canelo, for example, will make HUGE money whether he fights GGG, Charlo, BJS, Kahn, Kov, or Thraxox the TS because of his dazn deal.

We are slightly more than 10 years removed from Floyd having to fight ODH and Cotto on PPV to make what Canelo can make fighting BJS. That is a huge shift.

[IceTrayDaGang]

older fighters came up harder... this generation of fighters aint had to go thru what the older fighters had too..

[15 Rounds again]

Money?

When fighters are getting paid 7 figures on PBC or DAZN to fight fringe contenders and factory workers at best..then you get it all too easy coming through the ranks.

Fighters these days can be financially comfortable before they even face decent opposition. Pac and Wlad come from an era where you had to get to a good level and good fights to make money to give you a secure financial life, or at least it wasn’t quite as easy, so they have a different appreciation and knowledge of proving themselves.

Pretty much agree with this, I said similar in my post in this thread.
Money and emphasis on 0 is related to this.

[The Big Dunn]

Pretty much agree with this, I said similar in my post in this thread.
Money and emphasis on 0 is related to this.

The emphasis on the 0 isn't the fighter's, it's the networks. Thy want to market the sport to causal fans and being undefeated is something casual fans associate with being the best, regardless of the sport.

Floyd just used his 0 to market and promote himself. Remember he wasn't a huge draw that ended up having to beg the top guys for fights for years.

[15 Rounds again]

The emphasis on the 0 isn't the fighter's, it's the networks. Thy want to market the sport to causal fans and being undefeated is something casual fans associate with being the best, regardless of the sport.

Floyd just used his 0 to market and promote himself. Remember he wasn't a huge draw that ended up having to beg the top guys for fights for years.

Read my other post where I elaborated on this. I pointed out that the media (the networks) emphasize the 0.
As an aside, which fighters did Mayweather beg to fight him? I wasn't aware that happened.

[The Big Dunn]

Read my other post where I elaborated on this. I pointed out that the media (the networks) emphasize the 0.
As an aside, which fighters did Mayweather beg to fight him? I wasn't aware that happened.

Read your first post. I would say things changed when HBO started giving exclusive network deals. Floyd's SHO deal wasn't the first, Tyson had got one when he left HBO. I do agree with you and deathofaclown that money has changed everything.

ODH, Shane, Hamed and Kosta. He couldn't get them to fight him. He finally got ODH to fight him and he became a star primarily IMO through the 24/7 platform.