Coppinger reports 800-850K PPV Buys for WilderFury2

[Southpawology]

those are solid nums, im glad it did well

[Toffee]

1 v 2, joint PPV and biggest fight in a couple of decades... they're not good numbers.

PPV in the US is dying. Not surprising - $80 PPV is a constantly reducing market. Hiding the best events behind such a high paywalls isn't anything but short term thinking. Not that Arum will care... I don't think he has too many long term plans.

[BangEM]

those are solid nums, im glad it did well

The numbers didn't break even.

I doubt they will both make $20million apiece for the fight.

[bigdunny1]

Best ppv outcome since 2002 for HW and you still complain. Best HW gate ever at Vegas.

Till this day!!!

The gate is misleading because heavyweight has been a dead division for so long. Top gates last 2 decades aren't heavyweight. This gate doesn't even top the top 5 gates in Vegas the last 5 years. How about compare it to the top gates from Mayweather, Canelo, McGregor? Which are 72M, 55M, 27M dwarfing 16M by Wilder vs Fury. Mayweather alone has 4 fights higher, Canelo has 3 and McGregor has 2 better.

And all these fights actually made money this will end up losing money or will just squeak by breaking even. But let's brag that if we only compare it to heavyweight fights back in the 90's but don't take into account inflation it did better. lol

[nubianpiye]

interesting AJ sold 1.6 against ruiz. Who is the A side.

[NaijaD]

850K is amazing in my opinion and that's also a huge jump from the first fight, I predicted around 650-700K so I'm thrilled it did really well and I believe it hit the break even point so they didn't lose money on it either. It didn't get anywhere near the 2M old Bob was predicting but still to be not that far off a million buys has to be a sign that PPV isn't quite dead.

If the 3rd fight takes place I can't see it doing better because the intrigue just isn't going to be there no matter how many daft excuses Wilder puts out there.

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Bob Arum said the fight needed 850K just to break even and was predicting 2M PPV buys. They spent 56M in guaranteed purses for Wilder and Fury alone, had unheard amount promotion pushed by 2 of the top networks in the US and still couldn't crack 1M buys and probably lost money best case scenario they break even. lol

Best ppv outcome since 2002 for HW and you still complain. Best HW gate ever at Vegas.

Till this day!!!

Right but they also spent a TON. So it DID good numbers, but compared to what they spent it was not a "success". Fury winning is very good for ESPN as he is only 30-31, but theres also only 1 legitimate opponent left and that's Anthony Joshua...following yet another fight with Wilder, of course.

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1 v 2, joint PPV and biggest fight in a couple of decades... they're not good numbers.

PPV in the US is dying. Not surprising - $80 PPV is a constantly reducing market. Hiding the best events behind such a high paywalls isn't anything but short term thinking. Not that Arum will care... I don't think he has too many long term plans.

In this economic market it is beyond naive to think people will 0ay $80 for an average boxing match. Not to mention the abundance of online streams available which are of lesser quality...but are FREE.

Floyd sold as well as he did because he is a legitimate Top 10-15 EVER and the media did an amazing job creating a nemesis for him in Pacquiao. That was literally like marriage between Sport and Hollywood. Brilliant stuff

Canelo and GGG couldve had the Mayweather v Pacquiao success - or at least closer to it - if GGG was a couple years younger, but he caught on too late in his career.

Joshua ans Wilder were also groomed as the next nemesis couple but both have lost so that dream is long gone.

Loma and Mikey couldve milked it at 135 and set-up a mega fight but Mikey opted for higher stakes. That fight is no longer meaningful

Loma and Tank is a *possibility* but Loma is getting older and might move up and Tank fights infrequently versus lesser competition.

More like Ryan Garcia and Tank become nemesis as they're both young, champions, dominating, and can move up together when the time is right

Canelos best option for a megafight today might very well be Caleb Plant in 2 years...if Canelo and Plant clean out Benavidez, BJS, Smith, GGG (if he moves up), Bivol (if he moves down like he said he would), Danny J, Charlo/Andrade (if they're willing to move up). All ya gotta do is keep talking about each other and winning...builds hype. And Plant has real pedigree to suggest he could win

Crawford and Spence are too inactive and all of PBC hides away from Crawford...its embarassing. Nonetheless Crawford v Spence would be an excellent fight and Crawford would probably unify his 2nd division and make his case for ATG stardom...but hes already 32 years old. So theres little chance of this happening

[Toffee]

Will be interesting to see how the networks react. Reasonably what could you predict for a rematch? 600k? Less?

There might a contract that gives Wilder a rematch, but are the numbers even there to do it? I would have thought the networks have a get out clause.

[Southpawology]

The numbers didn't break even.

I doubt they will both make $20million apiece for the fight.

The first fight sold 325K. The rematch sold 525K more than the first. What more can you want, I'd say thats a success.