Is Wilder the biggest hypejob since Lucian Bute?

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  • Boxing_1013
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    #31
    Originally posted by MaksBox
    You can't be serious, right?

    That fat HW is far more skilled than Wilder and would certainly KO him as well.

    Go compare AJ's resume vs Wilder.

    Wilder was exposed for who he really was... a guy who can't box to save his own life but can knock someone out if they stand in front of him.
    Lol at thinking Ruiz would KO Wilder...I mean maybe who knows...but definitely not the most probable outcome.

    Yeah AJ has a little better resume...not tremendously different though...and Wilder's official loss is much better than AJ's.

    Other than AJ's win over Wlad they are pretty similar...and Wlad was pretty shot then so yeah.

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      #32
      Originally posted by 15 Rounds again
      He's awful, Nathan Gorman would beat Wilder easily.
      Just like every dude on his resume not-named Fury did?

      Fury would have done the same or worse to any man who's ever laced up gloves. You could have time warped a prime Ali, prime Vitali, prime Foreman, prime Tyson... and one after another they would have suffered the same fate.

      Wilder has lots of limitations but they we're "exposed" long ago. He has a great chin and the greatest punch of all time, though. At Heavyweight that compensates for a lot. In fact, it's almost insurmountable. Reference and individual named Jack Dempsey for what he had to say on the matter.

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      • QueensburyRules
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        #33
        Originally posted by BangEM
        Padded stats knocking off cabbies with overrated power until he faced a decent boxer and he got beaten like a thief for 7 rds.
        - -Bute a p4p fighter. He didn't fight TBAs like bronze Bambi.

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          #34
          Originally posted by Boxing_1013
          Lol at thinking Ruiz would KO Wilder...I mean maybe who knows...but definitely not the most probable outcome.

          Yeah AJ has a little better resume...not tremendously different though...and Wilder's official loss is much better than AJ's.

          Other than AJ's win over Wlad they are pretty similar...and Wlad was pretty shot then so yeah.
          Ruiz would take the fight to Wilder from rnd 1. Wilder obviously can't take the pressure.

          AS far as resumes, you are delusional.

          Wilder lost 18 rounds to Fury and Ortiz is hte best name on his resume for wins... and Ortiz in the grand scheme kinda sucks.

          How many Champions has Wilder fought?

          Wilder can't fight and merely looks for the right hand.

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            #35
            Originally posted by MaksBox
            Ruiz would take the fight to Wilder from rnd 1. Wilder obviously can't take the pressure.

            AS far as resumes, you are delusional.

            Wilder lost 18 rounds to Fury and Ortiz is hte best name on his resume for wins... and Ortiz in the grand scheme kinda sucks.

            How many Champions has Wilder fought?

            Wilder can't fight and merely looks for the right hand.
            I think Ortiz is very similar, and probably better, than Whyte Povetkin (at 40) and Parker, who are AJ's best wins...AJ has a few more 'good' wins compared to Wilder...Wilder a couple more 'OK' wins.

            Lol at thinking Andy Ruiz would just run in on Wilder and not get touched...Wilder still landed a good 4 or 5 right hands on Fury in the first two rounds of the last fight...imho if those land on anyone else at HW, they are hurt/KD/ possibly stopped.

            Ruiz is just too small man...he would likely get lined up if he tries to get inside...punching a 270 pound in shape 6'9 guy is way different that punching a 6'0 250 fat guy...AJ had a bad loss man, it's OK to admit that.

            So yes AJ's loss to him is worse than Wilder's to Fury..so in that way AJ would appear to be more of the hypejob compared to Wilder.

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              #36
              Originally posted by Rusty Tromboni
              Just like every dude on his resume not-named Fury did?

              Fury would have done the same or worse to any man who's ever laced up gloves. You could have time warped a prime Ali, prime Vitali, prime Foreman, prime Tyson... and one after another they would have suffered the same fate.

              Wilder has lots of limitations but they we're "exposed" long ago. He has a great chin and the greatest punch of all time, though. At Heavyweight that compensates for a lot. In fact, it's almost insurmountable. Reference and individual named Jack Dempsey for what he had to say on the matter.
              Oh dear. You lost me at Ali.

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                #37
                Nah that football player

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                  #38
                  Originally posted by QueensburyRules
                  - -Bute a p4p fighter. He didn't fight TBAs like bronze Bambi.
                  Lol. Now I am not sure which I like better, Bronze Bambi or Deontay Broner?

                  Either way, this guy is a laughingstock.

                  https://********/4OHnB-gX_zI

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                    #39
                    Originally posted by 15 Rounds again
                    Oh dear. You lost me at Ali.
                    Who, the guy that git EXPOSED by Frazier?

                    And Norton.

                    And Young.

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                    • MaksBox
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                      #40
                      Originally posted by Boxing_1013
                      I think Ortiz is very similar, and probably better, than Whyte Povetkin (at 40) and Parker, who are AJ's best wins...AJ has a few more 'good' wins compared to Wilder...Wilder a couple more 'OK' wins.

                      Lol at thinking Andy Ruiz would just run in on Wilder and not get touched...Wilder still landed a good 4 or 5 right hands on Fury in the first two rounds of the last fight...imho if those land on anyone else at HW, they are hurt/KD/ possibly stopped.

                      Ruiz is just too small man...he would likely get lined up if he tries to get inside...punching a 270 pound in shape 6'9 guy is way different that punching a 6'0 250 fat guy...AJ had a bad loss man, it's OK to admit that.

                      So yes AJ's loss to him is worse than Wilder's to Fury..so in that way AJ would appear to be more of the hypejob compared to Wilder.
                      Fury does not count as Wilder lost to him TWICE!

                      Ortiz is the only good win for Wilder and even still, Ortiz has no resume and is not on the level of Povetkin, Whyte, Parker, Wlad, Takam, Martin. And again, how many of those did Wilder fight?

                      Wilder has been protected to fight cans...

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