Is Wilder the biggest hypejob since Lucian Bute?

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  • Madison Boxing
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    #11
    Yeah he was exposed. A lot of these pbc 'monsters' really aren't anything special at all, we've seen that with broner and the charlos too. They create there own little fantasy world where these guys are the best when in reality they are nothing special.

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    • #1Assassin
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      #12
      Neither was a hypejob.

      Bute was a very good fighter, decent boxing skills, awkward style and crazy power from that lefty stance. A real problem for most fighters at 168. His flaws were such that when it didn't work, he got beat in a bad way. Given that his firepower was his best defense and his chin left more to be desired.

      Wilder is a very flawed fighter, but the upside to his game is so major he is still a very good fighter overall. It's easy to point to a fighters flaws, especially after a loss. And especially a guy like Wilder with glaring flaws who predictably looked bad in defeat. But again, if you look at the complete article he is still a very good fighter.

      Nasty power, great chin, huge heart, excellent athleticism, speed and instincts. His skill set is very limited, but it takes a special fighter to expose that in the face of what he brings to the dance.

      Fury is the only big man since Bowe who can fight on the inside like that. Then add the way he can move and box, again for his size in particular. Not forgetting the mind he has, arguably his best quality. Styles make fights, Wilder found his boogeyman and on a bad night performance wise to boot. Dude is still a monster.

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      • BangEM
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        #13
        Originally posted by #1Assassin
        Neither was a hypejob.

        Bute was a very good fighter, decent boxing skills, awkward style and crazy power from that lefty stance. A real problem for most fighters at 168. His flaws were such that when it didn't work, he got beat in a bad way. Given that his firepower was his best defense and his chin left more to be desired.

        Wilder is a very flawed fighter, but the upside to his game is so major he is still a very good fighter overall. It's easy to point to a fighters flaws, especially after a loss. And especially a guy like Wilder with glaring flaws who predictably looked bad in defeat. But again, if you look at the complete article he is still a very good fighter.

        Nasty power, great chin, huge heart, excellent athleticism, speed and instincts. His skill set is very limited, but it takes a special fighter to expose that in the face of what he brings to the dance.

        Fury is the only big man since Bowe who can fight on the inside like that. Then add the way he can move and box, again for his size in particular. Not forgetting the mind he has, arguably his best quality. Styles make fights, Wilder found his boogeyman and on a bad night performance wise to boot. Dude is still a monster.
        Wilder has no chin and can't take a punch. His power is also exaggerated. He looked good against bums but he stepped up once and got pummelled into submission.

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        • BM dnobagaV
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          #14
          Froch fought dirty against Bute.

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          • deathofaclown
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            #15
            Originally posted by BangEM
            When did I say I'll punch you in the mouth? You have lost your mind.

            But I'll **** you up. Come to Finchley ABC on Saturday at noon.
            DM me and we’ll sort it or swap numbers. You have a big mouth, so back it up now and let’s exchange details rather than say “come here on this day”. Let’s call now, let’s see if you have the bollocks to talk and arrange it directly.

            you said you will drive to my house and punch me in the mouth haha. You’re welcome to come or i can come to you at Finchley ABC if you’re really going to be there, i know a few guys there. You probably don’t even go there. You’re a wannabe.

            As i said though, you’re the one who said you will drive to me and punch me. So i’m offering to meet you for a street fight, boxing match or whatever.

            We can stream it live for the forum
            Last edited by deathofaclown; 02-26-2020, 07:26 PM.

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            • BangEM
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              #16
              Originally posted by deathofaclown
              DM me and we’ll sort it or swap numbers. You have a big mouth, so back it up now and let’s exchange details rather than say “come here on this day”. Let’s call now, let’s see if you have the bollocks to talk and arrange it directly.

              you said you will drive to my house and punch me in the mouth haha. You’re welcome to come or i can come to you at Finchley ABC if you’re really going to be there, i know a few guys there. You probably don’t even go there. You’re a wannabe.

              As i said though, you’re the one who said you will drive to me and punch me. So i’m offering to meet you for a street fight, boxing match or whatever.

              We can stream it live for the forum
              I'm not talking to a nerd on the phone. You're a pu5sy. I'm a bigman and I don't have time for internet stream with chavs and internet nerds.

              Finchley ABC at 12noon on Saturday. And don't come with feds.

              I'll fcck you up and break your front 6 teeth.

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              • deathofaclown
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                #17
                Originally posted by BangEM
                I'm not talking to a nerd on the phone. You're a pu5sy. I'm a bigman and I don't have time for internet stream with chavs and internet nerds.

                Finchley ABC at 12noon on Saturday. And don't come with feds.

                I'll fcck you up and break your front 6 teeth.
                Lol, you haven’t even got the bollocks to arrange it man to man.

                What a little b1tchboy you are.

                **** yourself when you realised i was deadly serious in the other thread and refused to reply to my offer until i asked in your own thread.

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                • BangEM
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                  #18
                  Originally posted by deathofaclown
                  Lol, you haven’t even got the bollocks to arrange it man to man.

                  What a little b1tchboy you are.
                  Stop stalking me, little b1tch.

                  Finchley ABC on Saturday at noon.

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                  • BangEM
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                    #19
                    Originally posted by deathofaclown
                    Lol, you haven’t even got the bollocks to arrange it man to man.

                    What a little b1tchboy you are.

                    **** yourself when you realised i was deadly serious in the other thread and refused to reply to my offer until i asked in your own thread.
                    No, the b1tch Lacedup blocked me from the thread because I put him on ignore.

                    I'm not scared of any man born by a woman.

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                    • deathofaclown
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                      #20
                      Originally posted by BangEM
                      Stop stalking me, little b1tch.

                      Finchley ABC on Saturday at noon.
                      Haha, ok, i’ll pop in. We both know you won’t even be there. You’ve already shown what a little coward you are.

                      Trying to act like you’re going to come and punch me and then won’t even dare arrange a proper meeting or speak to me when i put it on your toes.

                      As i said, better that we exchange details so we can make sure it happens..

                      Be a man

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