Wilders 2nd best career win in 44 fights across 12 years is Bermain Stiverne. A guy Joe Joyce stopped in his 8th professional fight a year after 38-0 at the time Wilder made his sixth WBC title defence against him.
Wilder has only fought two top 10 ranked opponents in his career
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Stiverne was in shape the first time and it went the distance , the rematch was a joke of a mandatory ,Wilder carefully had a orchestrated career . Had Breazeale landed cleanly on him we wouldn’t even be talking about Fury ,he would have lost that fight and it was over, anytime Wilder fights a puncher he’s going to be an accident waiting to happen ,his team knew it to .Comment
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It's not even up for debate is it? Resume is trash.
He was champ for 5 years but you couldn't describe him as anything but 'unproven' in that time.
We had no idea whether he was actually any good. We still don't really. He's better than Ortiz and worse than Fury. With Ortiz being unproven as a pro himself that might mean he's anywhere between ranking 10 or 2!
Would love to see him fight Whyte, Parker, Ruiz. I don't think any of them are easy fights.
Gut feel says he's 3 to 5. But will always be a bit more interesting to watch because of the one punch stuff.Comment
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I'm not sure you get me, I rather like Deontay but I've always said he was a KO waiting to happen... TBF it took him a long time getting to someone with the skill or confidence to do it, and he certainly got further than I expected with a limited toolkit. I was merely pointing out that your statement was incorrect - per TBRB - I'm afriad I'm kinda unapologetically pedantic when it comes to people stating stuff as fact innaccurately. Just the way I'm wired, man.Stiverne was in shape the first time and it went the distance , the rematch was a joke of a mandatory ,Wilder carefully had a orchestrated career . Had Breazeale landed cleanly on him we wouldn’t even be talking about Fury ,he would have lost that fight and it was over, anytime Wilder fights a puncher he’s going to be an accident waiting to happen ,his team knew it to .Comment
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This is why eye test is a load of crap, all that matters is who u have beat. Wilder hadn't beaten anyone of note. When he fought a world level fighter at 100 percent he got absolutely demolished. I'm sick of hearing how all these fighters with 0 are obviously so great even though they've not proven anything other than win fantasy match ups.Comment
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Why does anyone think Whyte is anything special...pretty clearly to me he is being pushed by a certain faction who wanted him to be another roadblock to Wilder facing AJ, and they were hoping that Whyte would get lucky and beat Wilder.
And that is what it would take from Whyte imho...getting very lucky.Comment
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its actually 3 with Stiverne
but only 2 guys in the top 10 and 4 fights overall in terms of title defensesComment
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It has to be 3 like most have pointed out, Ortiz, Fury (second fight) and Bermane (First fight), won 2 out of the 3, never fought a unification, 42/43 fights in that time, an Olympian, 12 years as a pro.
And some were trying to compare him to Mike Tyson who was beating up grown men in his early 20s, unifying, fighting taller, bigger men etc (People were talking about generational power), who were those power stopping? Most of them no hopers.
Power is power but if you aren’t fighting the better fighters and stopping them then don’t come on here and compare him to Mike Tyson.Comment
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that is hilarious coming from you, all you mention is "the eye test" when mentioning the unproven boxers you try to hypeThis is why eye test is a load of crap, all that matters is who u have beat. Wilder hadn't beaten anyone of note. When he fought a world level fighter at 100 percent he got absolutely demolished. I'm sick of hearing how all these fighters with 0 are obviously so great even though they've not proven anything other than win fantasy match ups.Comment
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bum squad was fighting bums while avoiding the two biggest threats in aj and fury until he could no longer avoid them. fury got to wilder first and the rest is history.Comment
That wasn't really made clear in your post - the thread title actually says 'in his career' and you appeared to agree - but OK.. ain't like I was actually claiming Bermaine was a good win or anything just correcting you on a point of factual detail.
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