Is Wilder's resume really that bad

[NEETzsche]

I rate his wins over Ortiz but aside from that there's not much there. After Ortiz and the first Stiverne fight, his best win is probably Duhaupas, which says it all really. It's the resume of a prospect who has only just stepped up, except he's 34 years old and probably a few fights away from retirement. He needs to face Joshua, Whyte and Ruiz in order to be remembered as anything more than "that guy Fury clowned" when he retires

[TMLT87]

Its got a pretty good volume of "okay" fighters, respectable B and C level gatekeeper types. The type of opponents you put a solid prospect in with after a 2-3 years of them beating total bums. But the problem is Wilder was facing these kinds of guys until he was 39-0.

[Combat Talk Radio]

Good, I am glad to know that the Wilder haters feel that way. That's why Tyson Fury can't get credit for this victory because it was futile.

He just defeated a limited, overachieving, unskilled fighter who cannot box with a very thin resume.

Therefore, this victory just confirms that it doesn't catapult Tyson Fury up on the all-time greatest or the the best P4P lists.

There's one issue.

In the win, he claimed possession of the three most valuable heavyweight titles.

I frankly think that NSB is being harsh about the resume. It runs circles around Crawford's. So by that logic, Spence beating Crawford does nothing for him, either. Which means Crawford doesn't deserve 50-50 split.

[champion4ever]

Good, I am glad to know that the Wilder haters still feel this way. It only helps further discredit Tyson Fury's victory over Deontay "The Bronze Bomber" Wilder.

He just defeated a limited, overachieving, unskilled fighter who cannot box with a very thin resume. Therefore, this victory just only confirms that it doesn't catapult Tyson Fury up on the all-time greatest lists or the best P4P lists.

Until he defeats the Anthony Joshua's, Dillian Whyte's, Oleksandr Usyk's, Luis Ortiz', Andy Ruiz', the Joseph Parker's and Alexander Povetkin's of the world. Then he is not even in the conversation of being one of the best P4P fighters in the world.

[champion4ever]

There's one issue.

In the win, he claimed possession of the three most valuable heavyweight titles.

I frankly think that NSB is being harsh about the resume. It runs circles around Crawford's. So by that logic, Spence beating Crawford does nothing for him, either. Which means Crawford doesn't deserve 50-50 split.

You mean the ring, lineal and the WBC titles correct?

[Combat Talk Radio]

You mean the ring, lineal and the WBC titles correct?

Correct. Lineal he already had, but the Ring has been the top belt for heavyweights in the past. And WBC for any division is the top belt in the minds of the current era, until Fury defends Ring with pride to restore the prestige.

[deathofaclown]

Well he beat Ortiz twice, some rated Ortiz highly, i never but Ortiz was highly ranked and considered at least top 6 or 7 in many peoples eyes. So he has to get credit.

Wilder did agree to fight Povetkin, but Povetkin failed a drugs test. Although that doesn’t add to his resume, he was willing to fight Povetkin when Povetkin was actually wrecking fighters. So he showed he’s not afraid to take tough fights.

I don’t know, i think he gets some unfair criticism sometimes, it mostly stems from AJ and Wilder never happening, or it taking a long time for Wilder to step up, he fought 30 nobodies.

Once he’s been champ, he’s faced Fury x2 and Ortiz x2. Then a load of top 15 or 20 guys.

AJ has fought Parker who isn’t great, then guys like Takam, an old Povetkin, Ruiz who has never really been highly rated. Breazeale etc..

Honestly the level of opposition between AJ and Wilder isn’t massively different. Fury that Wilder fought is better than AJ’s best opponent in Wlad.

[Sparked_26]

I think Joe Joyce goes through Wilder’s resume and nobody on here seems to think he’s any good.

Ortiz might beat Joyce but that’s it.

[chrisJS]

It's awful. Consider that his biggest d1ck riders who built him up most were always the hardest on Golovkin, Joshua and even Lomachenko and Usyk's resume and swore that Fury was a bum.

Does his resume come close to even Golovkin or Joshua, both who have been overrated I must add? Not remotely. Actually these people say Pacquaio has a trash resume yet Wilder was/is a god and is proven? Hmmmm.

[champion4ever]

Correct. Lineal he already had, but the Ring has been the top belt for heavyweights in the past. And WBC for any division is the top belt in the minds of the current era, until Fury defends Ring with pride to restore the prestige.

Ok, I gotcha!