Wilder needs to give freddie roach a call!

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  • MaksBox
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    #11
    Originally posted by champion4ever
    It doesn't matter who Wilder brings in to train him because the buck stops with him. They won't be able to help him unless he is willing to accept their help in order to become a complete and well-rounded fundamentally sound fighter. He has to want to improve and get better because if he doesn't, he will remain static and won't grow.
    THIS.

    If the reports are true that Wilder is unwilling to listen to people, does not matter who he has for a coach.

    Most any top level coach would be able to fix Wilder, and I would say someone like Teddy Atlas would be what he needs. Teddy would be completely comfortable screaming at Wilder in the middle of the rounds to get his head onto boxing instead of windmilling.

    Otherwise, no matter who else Wilder brings in as coach... I don't think he would listen to them nor would they force him to change.

    Beyond that... Wilder is already 34? So... not sure he is young enough to relearn... in the boxing ring you fall back to your already mastered skills and in his case it is hunting for the right.

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      #12
      Originally posted by champion4ever
      It doesn't matter who Wilder brings in to train him because the buck stops with him. They won't be able to help him unless he is willing to accept their help in order to become a complete and well-rounded fundamentally sound fighter. He has to want to improve and get better because if he doesn't, he will remain static and won't grow.
      roach will not be trying to re-create him... roach will just work on what he does good and make it better.

      look at what roach did with cotto towards the end of cotto's career... yeah cotto wasnt a completely new fighter but he did improved under roach with the circumstances that cotto was in.

      had cotto stayed with his previous trainer during the end of his career, i believe cotto would have taken more damage and a few L's along with that. roach pretty much saved cotto's legacy.

      roach will not try to change wilder much but he'll teach wilder on how to set up the power right like how he did with cotto with cotto's left hook.

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        #13
        Originally posted by deathofaclown
        Wilder is nearly 35, hard to see what can be changed at that age. It’s not even like he has basic fundamentals to build on or the boxing IQ to pick it up fast, that’s the main problem.

        He can’t even do things that he should’ve been learning in his first year of boxing.

        If he had good basic fundamentals and needed to be refined, then it’d be a good idea.
        roach will not completely change him... that's not roach's style.. what freddie will do with wilder is work with him on setting up that right hand. teach him how to use it properly.

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        • Cobra Curry
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          #14
          Not a bad shout actually. I do think they'd need a couple of Charles Martin type fights to work on things though.

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            #15
            When a guy loses his 0 spectacularly it's always suggested Freddie Roach comes in to save the day.

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              #16
              Originally posted by man down
              Lol roach can't hold pads for him.
              that's one of the thing i dont like about roach... he needs to be the one holding the pads lol.. he cant just let someone else does it while he watches and observe like other trainers.

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              • Boxfan83
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                #17
                Face first Roach? Naw, he should go down to Mexico and train with Nacho, learn how to properly counter using an overhand right.

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                • DaNeutral.
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                  Not sure Roach could be bothered with that. Mid 30,s who has a track record of ignoring his trainers and has shown very little boxing ability.

                  I think roach doesn't need any more green prospects on his hands right now.

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                    #19
                    Originally posted by Boxfan83
                    Face first Roach? Naw, he should go down to Mexico and train with Nacho, learn how to properly counter using an overhand right.
                    lol wilder is NOT gonna learn how to box at this stage.. and nacho cant even speak a word of english, how is that gonna work out with wilder? plus, who the fack has nacho trained that was good besides marquez?

                    wilder is a power puncher and an aggressive fighter. roach is the perfect trainer for this type of style... wilder is not a boxer and will never be one. wilder is a power puncher who looks to knock you out only.

                    roach will teach him how to set up that right hand better like what roach did with cotto. wilder doesnt need to change up his whole style, he made it that far with just power alone. roach will just help him set up the punch better.

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                      #20
                      Originally posted by DaNeutral.
                      Not sure Roach could be bothered with that. Mid 30,s who has a track record of ignoring his trainers and has shown very little boxing ability.

                      I think roach doesn't need any more green prospects on his hands right now.
                      look at what roach did with cotto towards the end of cotto's career. roach is not going to change a fighter completely but he'll just work on the things that they're good at and just make it better.

                      cotto got some wins under roach when imo, if cotto stayed with his previous trainers, he would have taken L's for those wins.

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