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  • Beercules
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    #21
    Originally posted by hugh grant
    When you add everything up about fury he is an atg heavyweight. His IQ, his footwork, beating people in backyards, abusing himself for 3 years and still beating arguably no1 heavyweight twice. Everyone fury spars they say he is the most talented by far and they've sparred with josh, Wilder etc etc
    Of course a few more wins won't hurt furys brand
    This right here ^^^

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    • QueensburyRules
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      #22
      Originally posted by Matt60
      Way too many people are talking about Fury as a top 10 HW of all-time. His resume does not stack up at that level. He has 2 good wins total. Every other fighter he has faced is a bum. And his good wins aren't all that impressive. Wilder is the most overrated boxer in history. 0 wins total vs good competition. Wilder literally cannot box. All he is a one trick pony. Not that impressive considering he also had a draw vs Wilder. I thought the judges robbed Wilder in the first fight. His other impressive win was vs a 39 year old Klitschko. Good win but the man was heading to the retirement. Not even close to the same fighter. His skills were diminishing at that point. No one is touting Joshua as a GOAT for beating the same Klitschko. I want to see Fury beat more good competition before I crown him.
      - -U clowning U...priceless!

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      • a.rihn
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        #23
        I don't believe it makes much sense to start thinking about ATG status before a fighter has retired. But, with his wins over Klitschko and now Wilder, Fury is at least in the running for top HW in the 21st century so far.

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        • Mr. Anonymous
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          #24
          Originally posted by LoadedWraps
          Exactly. Well said.
          especially now

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          • Armchairhero
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            #25
            He beat a prime chisora twice, who would be an easy top 5 guy.
            Beat Klitchko in Germany and beat Wilder twice in America

            There’s 5 top level fights.

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            • 2Shotz
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              #26
              The only thing that matters is that, like all great champions, Fury will rise to the big occasion! He does it consistently. I could care less how many tomato cans he’s feasted on or struggled with -it’s the critical fights against top opposition that tell the story and thus far, he’s done a damn fine job.

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              • emceetns
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                #27
                Originally posted by Matt60
                Way too many people are talking about Fury as a top 10 HW of all-time. His resume does not stack up at that level. He has 2 good wins total. Every other fighter he has faced is a bum. And his good wins aren't all that impressive. Wilder is the most overrated boxer in history. 0 wins total vs good competition. Wilder literally cannot box. All he is a one trick pony. Not that impressive considering he also had a draw vs Wilder. I thought the judges robbed Wilder in the first fight. His other impressive win was vs a 39 year old Klitschko. Good win but the man was heading to the retirement. Not even close to the same fighter. His skills were diminishing at that point. No one is touting Joshua as a GOAT for beating the same Klitschko. I want to see Fury beat more good competition before I crown him.
                I agree with the criticism of Fury's resume and I think that his greatness has more to do with the "eyeball test" at this point.

                He has done his best work against his best opponents and when I look at Tyson Fury, I see someone who would be favored to beat every other top heavyweight.

                Is that the same as actually beating them? No it isn't and hopefully he will get a few more quality wins before he's done.

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                • Boxing2022
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                  #28
                  Let's look at it this way. M Tyson a lot of people claim is the best or top 5 yet his best win was a career light heavy Spinks. Beat no one else decent a 40 year Holmes who had been retired for 2 years. Then lost to Buster yet people make all the excuses about his mind state trainer change etc so what his own fault can't base jis career on IFs. Fury went into depression, drugged up, cases with the british boxing board, 400lbs still made it back. Lewis won Tyson later on their careers his best win was Holyfield. Neither Tyson or Lewis fought Bowe and neither did they fight each other in prime. Tired of people always claiming it was so far better then this era no it wasn't. Fury beat Klitschko on points on away soil, when Klit has been champ for 12 years and has 24 title defences in his career Fury stopped him getting to Joe Louis record of 25. He then came back from 2 n a half years with all his problems weight gain drug addiciton etc and got a draw with Wilder (which he should have won) he now again went to America stopped Wilder (who has 41KO before some of you **** on about his resume its no different then M Tyson beating bums in the 80s but you lot still hype him as goat) Wilder was champ 5 years and had 10 title defences and Fury stopped him getting beating Alis record and give him his first L. Not hating on M Tyson or Lewis both greats but hate it when people do not give credit to Wlad Fury Wilder AJ as if they would not be able to compete yes they would. And Furys 2 wins are huge Wlad and Wilder

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                  • Matt60
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                    #29
                    Originally posted by Boxing2022
                    Let's look at it this way. M Tyson a lot of people claim is the best or top 5 yet his best win was a career light heavy Spinks. Beat no one else decent a 40 year Holmes who had been retired for 2 years. Then lost to Buster yet people make all the excuses about his mind state trainer change etc so what his own fault can't base jis career on IFs. Fury went into depression, drugged up, cases with the british boxing board, 400lbs still made it back. Lewis won Tyson later on their careers his best win was Holyfield. Neither Tyson or Lewis fought Bowe and neither did they fight each other in prime. Tired of people always claiming it was so far better then this era no it wasn't. Fury beat Klitschko on points on away soil, when Klit has been champ for 12 years and has 24 title defences in his career Fury stopped him getting to Joe Louis record of 25. He then came back from 2 n a half years with all his problems weight gain drug addiciton etc and got a draw with Wilder (which he should have won) he now again went to America stopped Wilder (who has 41KO before some of you **** on about his resume its no different then M Tyson beating bums in the 80s but you lot still hype him as goat) Wilder was champ 5 years and had 10 title defences and Fury stopped him getting beating Alis record and give him his first L. Not hating on M Tyson or Lewis both greats but hate it when people do not give credit to Wlad Fury Wilder AJ as if they would not be able to compete yes they would. And Furys 2 wins are huge Wlad and Wilder
                    Mike Tyson has 7 career wins vs the Boxrec top 150. Tyson Fury has a total of 2 career wins vs the Top 150. Tysons resume was light years better than Furys at this point.

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                    • NYG
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                      #30
                      Beat Chisora twice
                      Beat Wilder twice
                      Beat Klitschko

                      His resume is one of the best heavyweight resumes today. What kind of drugs are you on?

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