Comments Thread For: Co-Trainer: Wilder Doesn't Get Enough Credit For Improvement, Skill Level, Ring IQ

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  • hrt3333
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    #11
    He didn't show it against Fury or Ortiz and his technique isn't great so what do you expect?

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    • ShoulderRoll
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      #12
      Has Jay Deas shown him how to throw a body shot yet? He's a garbage trainer when it comes to skills. Thank goodness Mark Breland is around.

      But winning is what matters and Wilder has been able to keep doing it so far.

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      • Jack_sh*t
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        #13
        Let's face it, there's always been plenty of scope for improvement. Especially in the IQ department. However, I've gone from intending to lay money on Fury to keeping my dough in my pocket in this one. Just seems like there's something not right with him atm...

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        • Robbie Barrett
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          #14
          Jay Deas the trainer that has taught his fighter nothing in 15 years.

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          • FreezeIzGawd
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            #15
            Originally posted by TMLT87
            He hasnt improved. The guy is 40+ fights in and in his mid 30s. Its just marketing. People talk about him being patient in the Ortiz rematch but ignore that the Breazele fight before that was a sloppy windmill fest. And its not like his boxing ability looked better in that Ortiz fight either, he got the KO a couple of rounds earlier but up to that he was arguably doing worse than in the first fight.
            Hmmmm okay I have a question.

            Since Wilder is so sloppy and lacking of skills and technique then why hasn’t ANYONE ever put him down or split him open?

            Wlad has been.

            Fury was been repeatedly.

            Obviously AJ has since he was BEATEN UP FOR 4 STRAIGHT ROUNDS so if Wilder is such a sloppy Bum then why hasn’t anyone caught him FLUSH yet...

            I know you are going to say he has fought BUMS but it’s the HW division. Anyone can get caught so why not Wilder?

            Oh and now he fought like a sloppy windmill against Brezeale which obviously AJ should have done because Wilder beat him quicker and in more devastating fashion in HALF THE TIME......

            We got it Wilder is no skill possessing Bum

            So why hasn’t he been dropped or cut yet

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            • bojangles1987
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              #16
              I think his skill level and IQ are properly rated considering he gets outboxed by almost everyone he fights. That's okay, outpointing people isn't his game.

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              • TMLT87
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                #17
                Originally posted by FreezeIzGawd
                Hmmmm okay I have a question.

                Since Wilder is so sloppy and lacking of skills and technique then why hasn’t ANYONE ever put him down or split him open?

                Wlad has been.

                Fury was been repeatedly.

                Obviously AJ has since he was BEATEN UP FOR 4 STRAIGHT ROUNDS so if Wilder is such a sloppy Bum then why hasn’t anyone caught him FLUSH yet...

                I know you are going to say he has fought BUMS but it’s the HW division. Anyone can get caught so why not Wilder?

                Oh and now he fought like a sloppy windmill against Brezeale which obviously AJ should have done because Wilder beat him quicker and in more devastating fashion in HALF THE TIME......

                We got it Wilder is no skill possessing Bum

                So why hasn’t he been dropped or cut yet
                You already awnsered your own question. Get back to me when he actually fights multiple top 10 level HWs with skill + power.

                Oh and btw, he has been put down, by the mighty Harold Sconiers, who has a record of 18-27.

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                • _Rexy_
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                  #18
                  Originally posted by Slowhand
                  Wilder´s skills still are not worth mentioning, but I admit he´s getting smarter and more patient. I thought his rematch vs Ortiz was his best performance ever, he was basically just setting up the KO for six rounds. That should be his game plan vs all other top ten HWs, no point trying to out box the better boxer.
                  I thought he set a trap for Ortiz in the first fight that ended up getting him the win also. Wilder's ring IQ is underrated, but it's probably a better thing for him that nobody notices it.

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                  • _Rexy_
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                    #19
                    Originally posted by ShoulderRoll
                    Has Jay Deas shown him how to throw a body shot yet? He's a garbage trainer when it comes to skills. Thank goodness Mark Breland is around.

                    But winning is what matters and Wilder has been able to keep doing it so far.
                    He threw one on Breazelle

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                    • Mammoth
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                      #20


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