Furys Weight Should Make Him The Hefty Favorite Now .

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  • leff
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    #21
    the extra 14 lbs may also be what makes Fury stay down if he gets caught again.

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      #22
      I’m not seeing it. I think a heavier Fury is a slower and more likely to tire Fury.

      That’s my theory anyway...

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        #23
        Originally posted by billeau2
        Yes they most certainly do...And so does wearing a shirt to the weigh in. And Wilder is in the best shape of his life. I guess we will see but it sure looks like Fury had a rougher camp. I like both guys and am a die hard Fury fan... Honestly this is not encouraging.
        Fury was in less shape then last time I don’t see how odds are relevant here ,the gap in between the two fights isn’t going to be close . Wilder will hit a tad harder but it should not be over a bigger better and more skilled guy who has multiple training camps since that fight .

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          #24
          Originally posted by GhostofDempsey
          The longer the fight goes on Fury will gas out. He will be a zombie by round nine or ten if he lasts that long.
          All you guys said this last time and that was Fury in his comeback 6 months into it ,not sure where you are coming up with that ,if you pay attention you will see Wilder breathes heavy relatively early in fights in his corner .

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            #25
            Originally posted by REDEEMER
            Fury was in less shape then last time I don’t see how odds are relevant here ,the gap in between the two fights isn’t going to be close . Wilder will hit a tad harder but it should not be over a bigger better and more skilled guy who has multiple training camps since that fight .
            Odds are very relevant. The people that make the odds are people that have sources to give them information, they often confirm analysis at a weight in...They are smart as s hit and when they make a line, they have the weight of an entire betting pool on their backs... These guys are why it is tough to beat the house.

            Fury showed every indication that his weight was a problem. is he bluffing us? I doubt it. I sure hope he is bluffing us lol. But you have to understand that there are people in this world that are very very smart, capable, and analyzing information for the house.

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              #26
              Originally posted by billeau2
              Odds are very relevant. The people that make the odds are people that have sources to give them information, they often confirm analysis at a weight in...They are smart as s hit and when they make a line, they have the weight of an entire betting pool on their backs... These guys are why it is tough to beat the house.

              Fury showed every indication that his weight was a problem. is he bluffing us? I doubt it. I sure hope he is bluffing us lol. But you have to understand that there are people in this world that are very very smart, capable, and analyzing information for the house.
              Fury was the favorite in the rematch prior to Wallin.

              The odds are more so reflecting the cuts Fury attained in his previous fight compared to Wilders K.O of Ortiz which has fooled many people to believe that gives Wilder an edge here ,it doesn’t . The cut could be a factor if it opens early but you don’t really see that twice it’s rare unless a fighter is known to cut easy .


              Edit :Not sure what you mean Furys weight a problem ? He is naturally the bigger , taller man it won’t effect him negatively at all, Wilder in late rounds however will drain faster being the smaller man should Fury pick his spots to fatigue him inside .
              Last edited by REDEEMER; 02-22-2020, 03:07 AM.

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                #27
                Originally posted by REDEEMER
                Fury was the favorite in the rematch prior to Wallin.

                The odds are more so reflecting the cuts Fury attained in his previous fight compared to Wilders K.O of Ortiz which has fooled many people to believe that gives Wilder an edge here ,it doesn’t . The cut could be a factor if it opens early but you don’t really see that twice it’s rare unless a fighter is known to cut easy .


                Edit :Not sure what you mean Furys weight a problem ? He is naturally the bigger , taller man it won’t effect him negatively at all, Wilder in late rounds however will drain faster being the smaller man should Fury pick his spots to fatigue him inside .
                So you think the smartest minds, the guys who basically manage risk for the casinos are not aware of the situation and you are? And that this specific oversite is an unwarranted concern for Fury's cut?

                Look sometimes a smart gambler can catch the pundits on something. That is how guys like Dwyer for example, make their money. But notice how much they hedge their bets. I think you are letting your appreciation for Fury blind you to some possible problems here Reedemer. To each his own, I am a Fury fan and want him to do well and win... But sometimes your heart will lead your mind astray.

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                  #28
                  Originally posted by billeau2
                  So you think the smartest minds, the guys who basically manage risk for the casinos are not aware of the situation and you are? And that this specific oversite is an unwarranted concern for Fury's cut?

                  Look sometimes a smart gambler can catch the pundits on something. That is how guys like Dwyer for example, make their money. But notice how much they hedge their bets. I think you are letting your appreciation for Fury blind you to some possible problems here Reedemer. To each his own, I am a Fury fan and want him to do well and win... But sometimes your heart will lead your mind astray.
                  I picked Wallin to defeat Fury and by possible cuts and was the only one on any forum or media to Suggest that could happen .

                  I’m not in competition with who’s smarter I only care about facts ,the fact here is the weight of Fury is the obstacle that Wilder will have to overcome if it goes past 6 rounds .I know Fury should win here , if that’s the Dwyer I’ve seen on those you tube videos I’m sure he’s not making much money. He’ll ride Fury against whoever and bet against AJ at all costs no matter what . Ha

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                    #29
                    Furys Weight Should Make Him The Hefty Favorite Now .
                    It makes him the hefty something.

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                      #30
                      Originally posted by lazy
                      It makes him the hefty something.
                      A Hefty winner perhaps ?

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