Comments Thread For: Marvin Hagler Hopes Wilder Beats Fury, Then Faces Joshua

[TheMyspaceDayz]

Anyone ever watch a Hagler movie? I’m curious whether they are worth checking out. Looks like a Rambo rip-off TBH.

[OldTerry]

Anyone ever watch a Hagler movie? I’m curious whether they are worth checking out. Looks like a Rambo rip-off TBH.

They were extremely popular in Italy (no joke)

[Bronx2245]

I really hope not, for the sake of boxing am praying Fury wins twice. That’s the only way we would see the undisputed fight. Wilder would not fight Joshua. It’s not the PBC/Haymon model.

What model is that? They've already saved MatchRoom's MSG card, by sending Ruiz to fight on DAZN, when their fighter popped positive with 4 PEDs in his system. They sent Jacobs to HBO to fight GGG. They just had another of their fighters fight GGG on DAZN. They sent Spence Jr. to the UK to brutalize Kell Brook in 2017! Now, for the 2nd time, they've worked with Frank Warren, even working with Arum for the rematch. What else do they have to do?

[TMLT87]

I think both fights (AJ/Fury, AJ/Wilder) need to happen. Its kind of unfortunate because the ideal situation would have been AJ/Wilder to happen in 2018 while Fury was still shaking off the ring rust, then last year we should have gotten the AJ/Wilder winner vs Fury for all the marbles. That would have made the most sense.

[Ray*]

They've already saved MatchRoom's MSG card, by sending Ruiz to fight on DAZN, ?

This is one of the saddest post I have seen, this is the new age of boxing fans. Now boxing fans are like this above ^^^^^. “They saved Matchroom card” not Ruiz got a chance at a title shot for himself and good money for his career.... it’s “They saved” SMDH.

Sad, really pathetic. Am even tempted to put you on ignore but I have a bit more respect for you. So am going to let this dumb post slide.

[The Big Dunn]

Marvin is right. The fight is overdue. Of course AJ now has mandos to take care of. Lets hope Wilder wins so AJ can't hide over in Europe.

Does the sport, the HWT division, or the world really need a another Dariusz Michalczewski?

[The Big Dunn]

What model is that? They've already saved MatchRoom's MSG card, by sending Ruiz to fight on DAZN, when their fighter popped positive with 4 PEDs in his system. They sent Jacobs to HBO to fight GGG. They just had another of their fighters fight GGG on DAZN. They sent Spence Jr. to the UK to brutalize Kell Brook in 2017! Now, for the 2nd time, they've worked with Frank Warren, even working with Arum for the rematch. What else do they have to do?

You know how it goes-posters like that seem to always ignore when PBC works with other promoters so they can fit everything that happens into the narrative that PBC is bad.

The Haymon model seems to be make sure you pay his fighters a fair amount. When Hearn or Arum uses that same model its fine. When Haymon does it suddenly ts bad for the sport.

The only way certain posters will be happy is if Haymon takes whatever offer is given to his fighters while willingly giving the opponent all the advantages.

These posters will only give Haymon credit for making the sport better by letting the guys they like have an easier chance to win.

[Outwest Exp 355]

I respect your opinion, you can blame Team Joshua but I think am validated by PBC’’s history of not wanting to work with anyone else. Or their reluctance to do so.

Am in a thread relating to PBC and Wilder, so am not “Picking on them”, as boxing fans we should be sticking together against these lot. Just like me and you stuck together and denounce Top Rank and Arum when he wasn’t open to working with anyone else during the Pacman days.

So I don’t flip and flop due to my favourite fighter being aligned with a certain promoter or network. My blame is firmly on Haymon because the evidence is there not only with Wilder but with all his top names, the same cannot be said of other promoters or network.

Ramirez crossed the street, fought a unification, on other network, got paid handsomely, picked up the other belt, went back to his side of the streets with them, Arum (As much as I use to dislike him) didn’t pay him 200k to not take the fight. He let him, and Ramirez career is better for it.

JoJo Diaz just fought Farmer, took his belt, the same Farmer that PBC IG wouldn’t fight, Broner the same, Charlo the same. The history is there for PBC fighters, no one is “Picking” on them, we are stating the obvious.

The least you can do for the boxers and their fans is to negotiate when others want to, you might not come to an agreement for a fight. But sit down and negotiate, don’t try and pretend that others do not exist. This is not the UFC with MMA.

Sure Ramirez crossed over but he’s just a guy. He’s not the future of Top Rank. You don’t see Loma, Crawford, or Fury crossing over. There’s too much money invested in the top guys to let them crossover. Same goes for PBC. There wasn’t a lot of money tied up in Ruiz so he was able to crossover and fight Joshua. There’s too much money tied up in the Charlos, Spence, Wilder, and several other fighters. I don’t necessarily like it but I understand the logic behind the decision. It’s the same way Arum and Hearn both run their business. Haymon gets a bad reputation because he doesn’t speak to the press. And he also has the biggest stable of fighters.

[Ray*]

Sure Ramirez crossed over but he’s just a guy. He’s not the future of Top Rank. You don’t see Loma, Crawford, or Fury crossing over. There’s too much money invested in the top guys to let them crossover. Same goes for PBC. There wasn’t a lot of money tied up in Ruiz so he was able to crossover and fight Joshua. There’s too much money tied up in the Charlos, Spence, Wilder, and several other fighters. I don’t necessarily like it but I understand the logic behind the decision. It’s the same way Arum and Hearn both run their business. Haymon gets a bad reputation because he doesn’t speak to the press. And he also has the biggest stable of fighters.

If Crawford gets offered a career high and he doesn’t cross then we would smash arum, Fury or Lomachenko. That’s how it works. That’s why boxing fans need to be in union, not criticise one and back the other.

Or not defend one and criticise the other. So far the top names on every promotion are ready to cross over in the money is better. None of the “They are not helping so so and so card”

The only people that I see with that excuse are PBC fanboys.

[Outwest Exp 355]

If Crawford gets offered a career high and he doesn’t cross then we would smash arum, Fury or Lomachenko. That’s how it works. That’s why boxing fans need to be in union, not criticise one and back the other.

Or not defend one and criticise the other. So far the top names on every promotion are ready to cross over in the money is better. None of the “They are not helping so so and so card”

The only people that I see with that excuse are PBC fanboys.

PBC has the biggest roster so it’s happening more often with their fighters. So they are getting the most scrutiny right now. Like I said I don’t necessarily like it but I understand the logic behind the decision making. I’m not one of those this guy is scared people. Even if I don’t support a fighter. These guys are professionals and I don’t believe they’re scared of any fighter.