ODLH vs Bhop catchweight

[Brother Mouzone]

I can't find much thru google search , what I found points to ODLH which makes sense Bhop had no leverage to negotiate a catchweight.All these articles are from 2004

NY Times : From the Article The two men came into the fight looking trim and cut. De La Hoya weighed in at a trim 155, Hopkins a pound heavier, his lightest in 10 years. He said that he improved his speed, but kept his power.
Although De La Hoya was the challenger for Hopkins's three titles, De La Hoya held the leverage in negotiations for the bout.

https://www.nytimes.com/2004/09/19/s...e-la-hoya.html

From Article : Handlers of De la Hoya, a relative newcomer to the middleweight ranks after claiming titles at 135, 140, 147 and 154 pounds, had pressured Hopkins to lower the top limit from the normal 160 pounds to 158, something Hopkins said made no difference to him.

"My whole career, I have been under 160," said Hopkins, 39. "It makes no difference. I know I will have to do a lot of chasing, so having less weight will help.

"The weight is not an issue," added Hopkins, who brings a record of 44-2 with one no-contest and 31 knock-outs. "I am faster than him, and I will catch him."

https://www.abc.net.au/news/2004-09-...eigh-in/554624

Baltimore Sun from the article :This time, De La Hoya (37-3, 29 knockouts) fights at the MGM Grand, where Hopkins (44-2-1, 31 KOs) puts his International Boxing Federation, World Boxing Council and World Boxing Association titles on the line in what is expected to be the highest-grossing non-heavyweight fight. The two must meet a contract weight limit of 158 pounds (the actual middleweight limit is 160).

https://products.kitsapsun.com/archive/2004/09-18/9901_de_la_hoya_looks_to_cement_career.html

[Boxing_1013]

That story came 15yrs later by a writer I never heard of. Find ONE at the time that says ANYTHING about catcthweigt

You think they both just showed up and decided to weight 156 and 155 respectively? After Oscar just fought Sturm at 160...and BHop had to my knowledge fought at the MW limit for the last 15 years prior to that fight

[Larry the boss]

That story came 15yrs later by a writer I never heard of. Find ONE at the time that says ANYTHING about catcthweigt

why would the heavier person ever demand a catchweight man??? Oscar asked for it and Hopkins agreed

[Larry the boss]

I can't find much thru google search , what I found points to ODLH which makes sense Bhop had no leverage to negotiate a catchweight.All these articles are from 2004

NY Times : From the Article The two men came into the fight looking trim and cut. De La Hoya weighed in at a trim 155, Hopkins a pound heavier, his lightest in 10 years. He said that he improved his speed, but kept his power.
Although De La Hoya was the challenger for Hopkins's three titles, De La Hoya held the leverage in negotiations for the bout.

https://www.nytimes.com/2004/09/19/s...e-la-hoya.html

From Article : Handlers of De la Hoya, a relative newcomer to the middleweight ranks after claiming titles at 135, 140, 147 and 154 pounds, had pressured Hopkins to lower the top limit from the normal 160 pounds to 158, something Hopkins said made no difference to him.

"My whole career, I have been under 160," said Hopkins, 39. "It makes no difference. I know I will have to do a lot of chasing, so having less weight will help.

"The weight is not an issue," added Hopkins, who brings a record of 44-2 with one no-contest and 31 knock-outs. "I am faster than him, and I will catch him."

https://www.abc.net.au/news/2004-09-...eigh-in/554624

Baltimore Sun from the article :This time, De La Hoya (37-3, 29 knockouts) fights at the MGM Grand, where Hopkins (44-2-1, 31 KOs) puts his International Boxing Federation, World Boxing Council and World Boxing Association titles on the line in what is expected to be the highest-grossing non-heavyweight fight. The two must meet a contract weight limit of 158 pounds (the actual middleweight limit is 160).

https://products.kitsapsun.com/archi...nt_career.html

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[john l]

why would the heavier person ever demand a catchweight man??? Oscar asked for it and Hopkins agreed

i never said B- hop asked for it. That being said ive sen a few after the fact that are saying it was 158. Maybe it was because he came in lighter or it was not released at time, but it looks like I WAS WRONG

[john l]

You think they both just showed up and decided to weight 156 and 155 respectively? After Oscar just fought Sturm at 160...and BHop had to my knowledge fought at the MW limit for the last 15 years prior to that fight

I have seen wiki and one other that are claiming it was 158.(not 157) Im prtty sure it was not released at time or the fact B-hop came in 2pds lighter then catchweight had me off. Either way im man enough to admit it looks like I WAS WRONG

[Boxing_1013]

i never said B- hop asked for it. That being said ive sen a few after the fact that are saying it was 158. Maybe it was because he came in lighter or it was not released at time, but it looks like I WAS WRONG

it's all good man...happens to all of us..props to you for not deflecting or moving the goalposts

[john l]

it's all good man...happens to all of us..props to you for not deflecting or moving the goalposts

It tastes like **** right now lol

[Boxing_1013]

It tastes like **** right now lol

Most of us are probably wrong on here like 1/10 times we get into discussions...and not like opinion wrong...I mean like just not accurate...but you're a better man than most...almost always on here you will see someone deflect and move the goalposts when they are 'wrong'...you owned up to it, that's what a man does...no need to feel too bad about it.

[DumpkinsPlus5]

It tastes like **** right now lol

Dayum, you let Boxing_1013 school you? He don't know SHAT about boxing. LOL but props to you for being able to admit you were wrong. It's just boxing talk after all. Now if only others would do the same, we'd have some decent discussions around here.